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Old 02-20-2008, 07:34 PM
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Posted By: wjones

very curious to who are the biggest bb card collectors in the usa and northeast in particular. would love to email/phone/snailmail interview them for a term paper on the passion/obsession of collecting. anybody wanna contribute to a running list of contact info so i can get an A+ in my psych class.

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Old 02-20-2008, 07:43 PM
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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Scott Brockelman is a pretty big dude....I think he could probably beat me in arm wrestling too.

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Old 02-20-2008, 07:54 PM
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Posted By: Mike S

While at the gym, I saw a piece on CNN that somebody set the world record for most baseball cards. His whole house was full of 5000 ct boxes. Didn't catch the whole story, but I'm sure it wouldn't take much to find on the net.

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Old 02-20-2008, 09:52 PM
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Posted By: MVSNYC

off the top of my head...

don loucious
don spence
scott ireland (northeast)
michael wachs (northeast)
leon luckey

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Posted By: bruce Dorskind


We find it rather amusing that the responses to Mr. William Jones'
request include only a select few collectors who have been aggressive
set buyers on E Bay and who have a number of PSA registry sets

Whilst "the three registry set leaders" have distinguished collections
said collections pale in comparison, but in terms of scope and
quality with at least 10 "very private" collections.

With great respect for the privacy of said collectors, we would
suggest Mr. Jones begin his research by reviewing every edition
of the Card Collector's Bulletin and The Trader Speaks.

There he will find a cadre of article authored by most of these
legendary collectors.

We also find it amusing that despite Mr. Jones request for collectors
in the Northeast.. three of named respondents live in Texas or California.
We recognize that some people are confused between Red States and
Blue States...but we wonder how someone could possibly consider
Texas or California to be in the northeast.


Hint: Large World Class collectors of rare cards- all 25+ years in the hobby

(1) New Jersey (2)
(2) New York City+ Westchester County (5)
(3) Conn (2)
(4) Pennsylvania (2)
(5) Virginia (1)
(6) Rhode Island (1)
(7) Mass (3)
(8) Maine- one in addition to the Registry person mentioned


Bruce Dorskind
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Posted By: Brian

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Old 02-20-2008, 10:31 PM
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Posted By: MVSNYC

Bruce-


the poster asked this...


"very curious to who are the biggest bb card collectors in the usa and northeast in particular"


i think i answered that perfectly.


take care

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Posted By: JimB

If it is for a psych class, the psychology of collecting has little to nothing to do with money or the dollar value of the collection. Probably anybody on this board would be a good subject since they all have a certain degree of obsession with baseball cards. Some can just afford more expensive cards.
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Posted By: Jeff Shepherd

Bruce, with the utmost due respect, I'm curious as to who the "we" is that you refer to in your postings.

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He's a siamese twin, Jeff.

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Joined at the hip and the un-hip.

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Posted By: Brian

william,

The Dorksinds will provide you more than enough material for an A+ in psych. You could probably go for a PhD with their help.

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Old 02-21-2008, 02:23 AM
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Posted By: Scot York

William, Bruce Dorskind and his group have advertised for decades buying rare cards, that's a fact. They would be a good start on your reseach if available. My Dad & Mom couldn't send me to a fancy school (I was busy chasing tail) but, my kids (as a result) went and I admire young people who put forth the effort to succeed. Good Luck!

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Posted By: barrysloate

The biggest historical collection of baseball memorabilia ever assembled resides in the New York area and has fallen completely under the radar.

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Posted By: T Daley

I think the owners of the very private collections here would not be a good choice for William's research as they would likely not suddenly want to open their collection and collecting habits.

Prominent registry members would make a good choice as they openly share their collection. The same can be said for collectors that share their knowledge and collection through hobby message boards.

I think MVS hit the nail on the head with his suggestions.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

William, if you could get Keith Olbermann to talk about his collection that would be an excellent read.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

My sister isn't a collector, though she knows her little brother collects. When someone told her that it's stupid that baseball cards can be worth money as cards are just printed pieces of paper, my sister replied, "So is the ten dollar bill."

All people collect something, even if they don't consider it 'collecting.' Anyone who maintains a family photo album or attic box of family heirlooms are collects. Anyone who maintains a longterm library of books, DVDs or music CDs collects. Anyone who doesn't throw out his National Geographics collects. My mom doesn't think much of collectors, but buys statues for her garden and art to display in the home. Forgive me if I fail to see the difference between what she is doing and what collectors do. The difference between a 'collector' and a 'non-collector' is semantics, as they both collect something.

"Are you a collector?"
"No."
"What's that?"
"That's my CD collection."

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Posted By: Mark

Bruce, with the utmost due respect, I'm curious as to who the "we" is that you refer to in your postings.


I've always thought the We was as in "We hold these truths to be self-evident...."

Mike's suggestions are spot on. Even if you could smoke out the more private collectors, the info they would be willing to share would hardly be candid.

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Posted By: Bottom of the Ninth

Wow. I thought I smelled something. Can someone please clean up the Bruce before someone steps in it?

Thanks! Greg

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Posted By: Bob C


Bruce,
Mr. Jones is obviously operating under a burden. He may not be in your league but he has you outclassed here buddy. Pick on somebody your own size.
Regards,
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Posted By: PC

While not everyone has their email info listed, the PSA registry is a good source for email contact info.

You could email anyone at or near the top of this list:
http://www.psacard.com/set_registry/display_rsets.chtml?setid=83&set_name=1909%2D11%20T206%20White%20Border

Or anyone of the top 3 on this list:
http://www.psacard.com/set_registry/display_rsets.chtml?setid=7372&set_name=Topps%201950s%20Run%20%2D%20Master

At least one of them is a regular poster here.

Good luck.

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Posted By: Bob

The video was interesting and I think it is just great that the young man is so happy with his collection and has used it as a learning tool. That said, his 525,000 cards are probably all from the last 10 years, Topps, Donruss and UD (I am guessing here) and any comparison of collections with the aforementioned collectors isn't appropriate. A guy might have 500,000 comic books which are all Archies and Shogun Warriors from the 90's, but I think this wouldn't compare with a guy whose collection is 50,000 books but has complete runs of Batman, Action, Adventure and All-Star comics, etc from the 40's. Apples and oranges.
So "biggest" collector wouldn't be the guy with the most cards necessarily.
There are also some huge and valuable collections out there which are totally under the radar. Old guys who never mastered the internet and stored their collections decades ago in the attic or basement. Perhaps these cards will begin to surface in the next 5-15 years as the Grim Reaper draws near, as it does for all of us eventually...

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Posted By: JimB

Not to change the topic, but I just went to the link above on the registry for 1950's sets and several people have GPSA over 10. Our own Davillo's is over 12. I've heard of amps going up to 11, but graded cards going up to 12?
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Posted By: David Smith

To all,

When I think of the words "largest collection" I think of total volume (in this instance cards) and NOT total value. So, the guy with 500,000 cards in his parent's garage would have a large collection.

The T206 Gretzky Honus Wagner could be the only card in that person's collection (not likely and not getting into whether the card is trimmed or not) and, if based on total value, could vault them into the upper ranks as far as total value goes.

So, collection rank in total cards, near the bottom. Collection rank in value of cards, near the top.

On a different note, where would a dealer fit into this discussion?? Guys like the late Larry Fritsch or Kit Young? They have collections, it is just their's are for sale and change on a fairly regular basis.

Just my two cents,

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Posted By: Peter Thomas

Jim, if I understand the bonus system by year, I think it would be possible to have a set run with a score of 14.25. If so, these guy's still have lots of upgrade potential.

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Posted By: Jim Dale

285lbs should make me one of the biggest - no?

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some people that have tremendous collections as well as volume!

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Posted By: brian

there are a few collectors who have more graded cards than the top registry guys and they'll never add even a single card to the registry, in order to maintain their privacy and anonymity. One of the collectors has over 100,000 PSA graded cards and they are all pre-1980 with 40,000 of them pre-1950. Also, there is a collector who has more cards (600,000+) than this fellow in the video clip and his cards are mostly raw also with none from the post-1990 era.
In addition, I would like to know how many card Larry Fritsch had and whether he had more cards than Jack Cryder from Indiana, who is supposed to have slightly less than one million cards.

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Posted By: will

thanks guys, great info!!!!! really appreciate the info and list link from user: PC are there other lists like that??? my survey mailer was suggested to be 200+ in order to get a decent response rate?

btw are honus wagner size card guys a difrnt breed of collector? my prof. mentioned his grandpa had those cig pack cards...

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By now, I think the original poster already has enough material for an entire thesis, not necessarily on baseball cards.

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