Extremely worrisome possible trend.

[ksabet]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

not illegal to sell the labels..no law against it...someone may be making art of them them....maybe a bunch of cut up flips to make a psa 10 mantle flip....maybe people like looking at the flips more than the cards..

after all Sell the holder not the card..

You can't seriously be condoning this. Sure it may not be illegal, but your statements sound more of an encouragement than an indictment.

[ullmandds]

while the "idea" of people selling flips concerns me a bit...these particular flips...exept maybe the rose don't worry me much.

I'm much more concerned about people making their own flips than this.

[Mr. Zipper]

This should be reported to eBay because it appears it may be against their COA policy.

"Blank COAs and LOAs" and "COAs and LOAs as stand-alone items" are specifically not allowed. In my view, these items fall into that category.

http://pages.ebay.com/am/en-us/help/...utographs.html

[JustinD]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

while the "idea" of people selling flips concerns me a bit...these particular flips...exept maybe the rose don't worry me much.

I'm much more concerned about people making their own flips than this.

I think honestly what this shows is something I had not thought of before.

Making a fake flip is completely unnecessary. All the holograms and UPC codes mean nothing if you can just crack a card for the flip toss it in a fake slab and resubmit for another.

I now think the slab is the "end all" for security bar none.

Think about it, if the bad guys can just crack a slab; no matter what you have to legitimize it...even RFID chips. It's jack.

Beckett slabs are really moving up my list lately as what I tend to trust most.

I feel a lot of people are not realizing the bigger picture. I could care less the cards these flips are for. Other than the Rose, these are cards that are so off my radar it is insane.

It's the idea that people are selling flips now and the grading companies need to take note.

How much could a real scammer make re subbing a 52 mantle hi-grade 7 times and moving those flips?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by ksabet

You can't seriously be condoning this. Sure it may not be illegal, but your statements sound more of an encouragement than an indictment.

doesn't matter if condoning or not or reasoning...if its not illegal like you say people can do what they want......I never care about their reasoning...a lot of sellers say they are selling their collection to pay medical bills or taxes but holds off for years to get an over market value....or people buy cards from people saying they are keeping their cards in their personal collection to get a lower price or make the sale but then consign them a month later...

I don't care why a person is selling a card or flip or why they want to buy it ..can't police the world and people make up things all the time in the card world..

it does appear against ebay policy though...but not illegal