need help identifying 2 cards

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Posted By: Scott Gaynor

can anyone identify these two sets?

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Posted By: bcornell

Scott-

Criger is from the 1910 "Orange Borders" set:

http://www.oldcardboard.com/e/e2/orange-bdrs/orange-bdr.asp?cardsetID=777

As an aside, Lou Criger's family has a great site on him here: http://www.loucriger.org/.

Bill

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Posted By: leon

Don't remember seeing those though I haven't been around a long time. One looks like a T205 minor league wannabe and the other an orange border wannabe. From a cursory glance the "minor league" looking card looks like it was maybe more of a series and the other one looks like it was cut from a box or something.. pretty cool looking...let us know if you auction them.....regards

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Posted By: leon

With the inside white borders it threw me a little...not sure if I have seen any like that? later

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Posted By: bcornell

Not sure on the orange border - I haven't owned one. It does look like it was cut out, though.

As to the other card, there was a Jack Bliss who played for StL NL from 1908-1912, but that was before Hornsby's start with the team, so it doesn't explain the "Rajahs" team name.

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Posted By: Richard Masson

How did you happen to come across that lou criger website?

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Posted By: scgaynor

Thanks for the help on the Criger. The white inside of the orange border is what threw me as well. It is on light cardboard stock and appears to have been cut from a box, but didn't know if it was technically an "Orange Border."

The other card is on stock similar to American Caramel cards, just slightly less thin than most T-cards.

If anybody else has any idea's, I would love to hear them.

Thanks again.

Scott

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Posted By: scgaynor

Leon, I will be posting them on ebay this week, probably starting on Saturday. I am also posting three different L1 leathers, a complete set of 1904 Sporting Life Team Composite Prints, some Obaks, and more.

Next week I will have an L1 Ty Cobb in NM condition and in about 2 weeks a 1914 Cracker Jack Christy Mathewson that I'm getting SGC graded 1st.

Scott

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Posted By: Patrick McMenemy

Hi Scott:

My somewhat educated guess is the the term was used as a term of endearment for Roger Bresnahan, who was a
player/manager for St. Louis. Just as the term "NAPS" was a label used as a nickname for Cleveland after Napoleon LaJoie's association with that team.

Patrick

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Posted By: 823dek

Thanks Scott for the hobby rarities, make sure there are no buy nows , Leon has enough goodies already ! -Dan Koteles

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Posted By: Julie

because Criger managed to get his puss intoalmost every card at the turn of the century and beyond--I saved the whole scroll a year or so ago. Nicd cards, Scott, whatever they turn out to be!

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Posted By: dan mckee

On the right, absolutely a 1910 Orange Border. On the left, Leon, you have seen one before, I own a Chance from the same issue. I have no idea what it is though Scott. Dan.

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Posted By: scgaynor

Dan, what does it say below the "chance" on the card that you have? Does it make reference to the team captian (who was probably Chance anyway)? Perhaps this is some type of mid-west regional issue.

Scott

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Posted By: dan mckee

I will look tonight Scott, unfortunately, I am at work and not independently wealthy, bummer!

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Posted By: dan mckee

Scott, bottom says Cubs, scan to follow. Lyman and Bob Lemke, if my chance shows up cataloged, I will have to beat both of into small pieces with my hoard of 1982 Cal Ripken rookie toilet paper cards. Dan.

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Posted By: dan mckee