New Forensic Autograph Authentication Company

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

Oops! I guess for a minute there I thought I was tomtresh2!

That's not possible, David. You see, you're easily intimidated. I'm not.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Travis wrote "He's not collecting the card, he's collecting the grade."

So what if he did collect the grade. The population reports reads that the buyer of that card owns one of four of that particular PSA 10 graded card. That's not an illusion, that's real. If that's what he paid for, so what. What business is it of yours? How does that purchase affect your life, Travis? Explain that to everyone here.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Travis wrote "He's not collecting the card, he's collecting the grade."

So what if he did collect the grade. The population reports reads that the buyer of that card owns one of four of that particular PSA 10 graded card. That's not an illusion, that's real. If that's what he paid for, so what. What business is it of yours? How does that purchase affect your life, Travis? Explain that to everyone here.

And how does some guy buying something on eBay that you don't like effect your life? Explain that to everyone here.

Hypocrite.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

And how does some guy buying something on eBay that you don't like effect your life? Explain that to everyone here.

Hypocrite.

Because I care about the hobby and I do something about it when it comes to forgeries. I don't sit on the sidelines watching other people do the dirty work.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Because I care about the hobby and I do something about it when it comes to forgeries. I don't sit on the sidelines watching other people do the dirty work.

No videos in nine months, Chris? What happened? Camcorder break? (Or did someone make you an offer you couldn't refuse?)

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

No videos in nine months, Chris? What happened? Camcorder break? (Or did someone make you an offer you couldn't refuse?)

Two and half years of videos (almost 200) was enough. There was no need to do any more of them.

[David Atkatz]

Chris! You replied immediately after saying you wouldn't! Does the left half of your brain have any idea what the right half is doing?

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

Travis wrote "He's not collecting the card, he's collecting the grade."

So what if he did collect the grade. The population reports reads that the buyer of that card owns one of four of that particular PSA 10 graded card. That's not an illusion, that's real. If that's what he paid for, so what. What business is it of yours? How does that purchase affect your life, Travis? Explain that to everyone here.

It doesnt affect my life, i just think its crazy to overpay for a bump in condition that only a microscope can detect, if there is a bump in condition at all.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by travrosty

It doesnt affect my life, i just think its crazy to overpay for a bump in condition that only a microscope can detect, if there is a bump in condition at all.

In my opinion, uber "high grade" 10s are a theoretical grade and can't be consistantly replicated. A 10 could be 9.9 on another day and vice versa. It applies to cards, comics and coins.

That said, if someone wants to spend their money that way, that's their right. I'd prefer to spend my collecting dollars on 25 "near perfect" somethings than one imaginary perfect exemplar.

[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Mr. Zipper

In my opinion, uber "high grade" 10s are a theoretical grade and can't be consistantly replicated. A 10 could be 9.9 on another day and vice versa. It applies to cards, comics and coins.

That said, if someone wants to spend their money that way, that's their right. I'd prefer to spend my collecting dollars on 25 "near perfect" somethings than one imaginary perfect exemplar.

agreed,

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by thetruthisoutthere

That's not possible, David. You see, you're easily intimidated. I'm not.

And you're a jerk.

I'm not.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

And you're a jerk.

I'm not.

I'd rather be a jerk who is never intimidated and bullied, than someone who isn't a jerk who wimps out at the first sign of trouble.

[David Atkatz]

You'd just rather be a bully yourself. And you are. As well as being a self-centered, egotistical, moron. So proud of yourself for yelling at nameless eBay buyers on YouTube.

Real guts there, Chris. LOL

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

You'd just rather be a bully yourself. And you are. As well as being a self-centered, egotistical, moron. So proud of yourself for yelling at nameless eBay buyers on YouTube.

Real guts there, Chris. LOL

That's right, David, is does take guts to do what I do. I have my own method of doing things and that's what I do.

For someone who wimped out on the Piedmont thread, you sure have a lot to say.

I will end this here by stating, David, you're an agitator because you have nothing else to contribute here on Net54.

I will no longer reply to any Atkatz comments. I took the bait and this time I do apologize to the members here for allowing Atkatz to hijack this thread and for my contributing to that hijacking.

[David Atkatz]

Self-righteous schmuck.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

And you're a jerk.

I'm not.

I don't understand why posts like this are tolerated on this forum??

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

[GrayGhost]

I agree. This place is turning into nothing but a name calling contest, with two people who can't play in sandbox together. Really pathetic

[novakjr]

Dude!!! What the hell happened in here? David c'mon quit pokin at Chris. It's completely uncalled for.

Anyways. It's one thing for a thread to go off topic, BUT not when there's already a thread about the topic. If you're gonna argue about the PSA 10 Ozzie, do it in the PSA 10 Ozzie thread.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

I don't understand why posts like this are tolerated on this forum??

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

And the one immediately preceding it should be tolerated, right?

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

And the one immediately preceding it should be tolerated, right?

David, you've called him a jerk, hypocrite, self-righteous shmuck, and self-centered, egotistical, moron. After all of this, he called you an agitator. Step back and read the thread again, sir. YOU are dragging this thread down, and you know exactly what you are doing. I ask you to quote one post you've made on this thread that has had any purpose other than to stir the pot.

While we're at it, if someone is willing to spend $20,000 of their money on a baseball card is an "idiot," couldn't that name also be attached to someone who spends $10,000-20,000 on a signed baseball?

While we're at it (again,) I'm tired of hearing Chris bring up your continued silence on the Piedmont situation. How about breaking the cone of silence on that one so we can put it to rest, too?

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

[Leon]

Well, crap. I don't really like to step in the middle of threads too much. That being said, when I put my manager cap on, and some good folks are all saying the same thing, then I need to say something. So here is the deal.

David- you need to cut the crap out. I get the fact you were irritated or whatever. If you can't add anything positive please don't just fuel the fire. At the same time, I will also ask Chris and others to keep their distance from you. Next one that throws a jab at each other will get a time out. I don't want this place to get out of control and it's gone far enough. I am trying to be fair to all parties and the board in general. If anyone has any questions....go for it. Thanks for your understanding.

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Leon

Well, crap. I don't really like to step in the middle of threads too much. That being said, when I put my manager cap on, and some good folks are all saying the same thing, then I need to say something. So here is the deal.

David- you need to cut the crap out. I get the fact you were irritated or whatever. If you can't add anything positive please don't just fuel the fire. At the same time, I will also ask Chris and others to keep their distance from you. Next one that throws a jab at each other will get a time out. I don't want this place to get out of control and it's gone far enough. I am trying to be fair to all parties and the board in general. If anyone has any questions....go for it. Thanks for your understanding.

+1

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by earlywynnfan

David, you've called him a jerk, hypocrite, self-righteous shmuck, and self-centered, egotistical, moron. After all of this, he called you an agitator. Step back and read the thread again, sir. YOU are dragging this thread down, and you know exactly what you are doing. I ask you to quote one post you've made on this thread that has had any purpose other than to stir the pot.

While we're at it, if someone is willing to spend $20,000 of their money on a baseball card is an "idiot," couldn't that name also be attached to someone who spends $10,000-20,000 on a signed baseball?

While we're at it (again,) I'm tired of hearing Chris bring up your continued silence on the Piedmont situation. How about breaking the cone of silence on that one so we can put it to rest, too?

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

+1