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Old 07-28-2014, 08:29 PM
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I just dropped a $1K max bid. Thanks for the heads up!
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Old 07-28-2014, 08:37 PM
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Dang it Zach.... Torched my $499.99!
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Without seeing the card in hand it's hard to say. However....I'd bet a large amount of money that it has been altered. No, these are not common at all. Ask the seller if he will guarantee that it has not been altered and will grade numerically....
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But again, impossible to tell from a scan.
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Dang it Zach.... Torched my $499.99!
Just lowered my bid to $500. Thanks for the heads up!

In all seriousness though I'd have to agree with Brendan. Without being able to view the card in person you'd be taking a big risk.
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I kind of thought so. If the name were missing the colors on the card would be different as well.

I withdrew my 499.99 Zach so your safe to lower it a bit more. =)
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The auction is almost over. Keep an eye on it and if it's at a price that you're willing to risk then go for it.
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I've rarely seen missing name cards, but there are some around. I can't tell if the one on ebay has been altered.


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I believe this was the auction in question (OP was deleted) ...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Deacon-Phill...vip=true&rt=nc

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Old 07-29-2014, 05:21 AM
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Nice card to own if it's legit. You would think since the seller mentions it in
the title he/she would have a zoom option and a crop scan. Hard to tell
with the scan but the white on the bottom has a mottled look to it.

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The card looks legit to me. I don't see anything at the bottom that look suspicious. I like it and would love to own it. What do you guys think of the $553.21 final price?

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The chipping looks suspect, not sure SGC would label as no name.

I hope it's real for the buyer, good price if it is.
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The chipping looks suspect, not sure SGC would label as no name.

I hope it's real for the buyer, good price if it is.
You guys know more about T206 than I do but I agree about the bottom of the card looking suspect. However, I can't see erasure so who knows.... Good luck to the buyer....

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I spotted this one immediately......someone is taking a big risk on it...

near IMPOSSIBLE to tell from the scan....99.9% of T206 "no namers" are really not authentic "no namers".... the only way to tell is black light , then loupe....

this card will have no validity unless slabbed! no name T206 are the easiest to alter I heard.....

if I could guess from scan......erasure/chipping suspect......


love to take bets on this..;I vote NOT

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I'm with you JV... that's why my max bid was around $90.
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technically ebay protects the buyer if card is not as advertised?
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The Top of the card looks funny. It also looks trimmed. It looks Too straight compared to the rest of the borders. IMO

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The risk outweighs the reward IMO. Maybe if a high res image was provided it wouldn't be as risky. My opinion, it's been altered.
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This one has no name. I have a few that are just miscut and were left with no name. SGC didn't give it any special caption.




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Here's another don't think I've posted on this board.

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Always like your stuff Robert!! the phillippe, like stated before, I wouldnt consider it without physically seeing it and the chip in the border def. a no-no.
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Card is now in hand...here is a blown up scan of the area in question. Through illuminated magnification looks good to me. Card is not trimmed at top either...just heavily worn. Gloss and tone of bottom matches the rest of the border as well.

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Pete, you bought a T206?
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Pete, you bought a T206?
ha ha...purely a speculative move on my part!
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Nice card Pete. As long as Johnny is here,there will always be a market for it.
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I'm still a bit stumped on confirming this is maybe real...and if so...getting it in a slab.
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ha ha...purely a speculative move on my part!
Oh, there's no doubt!

1) Buy iffy error T206 after noob posts eBay link.

2) Get it slabbed.

3) ... Profit!
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Does PSA and/or SGC grade these denoting "missing name?"
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Looks like the real deal to me. Nice pickup, Pete!
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1) Buy iffy error T206 after noob posts eBay link.

2) Get it slabbed.

3) ... Profit!
you forget step 4...REPEAT!
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It looks good Pete, nice T206 pick up. Was the last one when you
were looking for beaters for your experiment?
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Oh, there's no doubt!

1) Buy iffy error T206 after noob posts eBay link.

2) Get it slabbed.

3) ... Profit!
Again,,, sorry to those who wanted or was watching the card before the 'noob' (me) posted it. I'm not going to take noob personally even though newbie would have sufficed. As diligent as everyone seems to be about running these little pieces of cardboard down I would have never guessed it was undiscovered.
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Again,,, sorry to those who wanted or was watching the card before the 'noob' (me) posted it. I'm not going to take noob personally even though newbie would have sufficed. As diligent as everyone seems to be about running these little pieces of cardboard down I would have never guessed it was undiscovered.
No problem Donnie, welcome to the board. Also, I didn't realize there is actually a difference between "newbie" and "noob" until I looked it up - I thought that noob was just slang for newbie. No offense was intended.

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SGC will not, don't know about PSA
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No problem Donnie, welcome to the board. Also, I didn't realize there is actually a difference between "newbie" and "noob" until I looked it up - I thought that noob was just slang for newbie. No offense was intended.
No worries Daryl and thanks. I obviously screwed up a bit on this card by posting it mid-auction becuase I just had no idea or just wasnt thinking. I was quickly reminded of this fact with a PM so I took what I could down as fast as possible. Looks like the spoils went to Pete.
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No problem Donnie, welcome to the board. Also, I didn't realize there is actually a difference between "newbie" and "noob" until I looked it up - I thought that noob was just slang for newbie. No offense was intended.
i too did not realize there was a difference between noob/newbie...I'm glad I now know!

Kinda reinforces why it's good to NOT out auctions currently active...it always draws new attention to them...I'd have never been looking at t206!
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It looks good Pete, nice T206 pick up. Was the last one when you
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ha ha...yes those beaters were the last ones I purchased...and for the life of me I can't even find them!!!!
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ha ha...yes those beaters were the last ones I purchased...and for the life of me I can't even find them!!!!
They're probably still soaking somewhere or sitting in the sun.
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sorry late to the party!!! all tpg are very suspect of missing names.....not sure if sgc even grades then anymore! last one I bought off ebay came back as "erasure" and I returned it....

if this gets a slab it would be a hot card, but that the tuf part....

it has enough real estate to be a true" no name".....which, inmho, needs more than the average space under the border to have received the strike....

in essence, a true no name has to have plenty of bottom border like your card...

I own at least 3 "true no name" but they are all printers scrap and never received the strike(Chance, Abbott, Mcginnley off the top of my head)...a true no name factory cut card are EXTREMELY rare....one of the only ones iv seen is sean's unglaub in the GIA holder AND THE ONE ON t206 MUSEUM.....

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Well SGC won't grade it...PSA won't grade it...not much point in trying any other TPG!!!
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Dammit...this hobby needs a new tpg with the balls...to grade em all!
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They won't grade based on the scan?
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they dont even want to see the scan...they just wont label it no name.
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