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Old 01-18-2012, 10:50 AM
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Default A slabbed reprint by SGC?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1913-Nationa...item5ae4918ea2

This sure looks like a repro to me, the corners are not even close to the correct cut and the image is bad.

I say reprint.
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:07 AM
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Agreed.
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:21 AM
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Looks too grainy and too brown for my liking. Many, many reprints of these cards.....some can be tough to tell too.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:04 PM
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Compare this National Game card to the other National game cards he has listed.
There is a definite difference between them.

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Old 01-18-2012, 12:09 PM
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Corners are wrong, color is wrong...wrong on all counts.
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Old 01-18-2012, 12:24 PM
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The slab looks a little frosty to me.
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Looks like a reprint to my eyes!!!
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The slab looks a little frosty to me.
I can't imagine someone tampering with a holder on a card that's probably about $30 value, and I don't think this one appears to be tampered with. (I know, I know - ended the sentence with a preposition...)

But I totally agree that this looks like a reprint that got slabbed by SGC.

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Old 01-18-2012, 12:51 PM
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Some reprints can be tough Leon, but when you sell yourself as the "experts" then darn it you better know what you are doing!

Too many mistakes in my opinion.
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:01 PM
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You guys gotta read the fine print. Read the item description, it indicates the following:

Item condition: Like New
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:07 PM
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Too many mistakes in my opinion.
Maybe, but they have saved me a minimum of $30,000 by finding color added before. No one is perfect. They shouldn't have graded this game card though.
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I can't imagine someone tampering with a holder on a card that's probably about $30 value, and I don't think this one appears to be tampered with. (I know, I know - ended the sentence with a preposition...)

But I totally agree that this looks like a reprint that got slabbed by SGC.
Good point. I don't collect these cards so I was unaware of the value. Don't worry, I would be the last person to call the grammar police on a message board post.
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If that's not a tampered slab then someone at SGC should be fired.

Anyone know if SGC stepped up to the plate on those Jim Rowe postcards yet?
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Default looks 100% fake

may be a popped case i cant believe lummy or bob is that stupid.
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Default it actually looks like

an older slab early to mid 2000s, regardless its pathetic.

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its a reprint
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Old 01-18-2012, 06:59 PM
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Maybe, but they have saved me a minimum of $30,000 by finding color added before. No one is perfect. They shouldn't have graded this game card though.
This is where you and I differ my good friend.

Color added that can only be seen magnified with a loop and not the naked eye, who cares.

In the 1960s and 70s, we used to add a little color to make the appearance look better in our binder sets. My US Caramel Lou Gehrig had a huge spot of yellow covering white where paperloss was on the face. We didn't have flesh tone markers back then! Too funny.

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Glyn, you summed it up nicely, PATHETIC is correct!
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Color added that can only be seen magnified with a loop and not the naked eye, who cares.
I care. I'd venture a guess that I'm not the only one either.
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This is where you and I differ my good friend.

Color added that can only be seen magnified with a loop and not the naked eye, who cares.

In the 1960s and 70s, we used to add a little color to make the appearance look better in our binder sets. My US Caramel Lou Gehrig had a huge spot of yellow covering white where paperloss was on the face. We didn't have flesh tone markers back then! Too funny.

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Dan- I am sure you wouldn't care if you bought a $27,500 Boston Garter Speaker, raw, and it had color added. You are right, I did care and returned it. It was bought with the guarantee it wasn't altered. The seller is a friend and it was a bummer for him. But I wouldn't pay that much for that altered card. Great folks and great friends disagree all of the time. You and Pops are still two of the best in my book.
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Yes times have changed and I understand you need to protect your investment. Buy yourself a blacklight instead of trusting clueless people who know about 1/100th of what you know.

Cards were not that expensive in the old days and the naked eye appearance was more important than a portfolio purchase.

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Old 01-19-2012, 07:40 PM
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Amen, Dan. The black light is one of the easiest, misunderstood, and useful tools there is for a vintage collector.
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Yes times have changed and I understand you need to protect your investment. Buy yourself a blacklight instead of trusting clueless people who know about 1/100th of what you know.

Cards were not that expensive in the old days and the naked eye appearance was more important than a portfolio purchase.

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One of the first vintage cards I bought was a T205 Matty with a chunk of paper missing from his nose. It only made sense to me to color it in - it was my card and I wanted it to look nicer. If I had given it any thought, I would have figured I increased the value by my actions. Now I know better and I simply would never buy a card that needed altering in order to look presentable.
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Old 01-19-2012, 07:58 PM
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Yes times have changed and I understand you need to protect your investment. Buy yourself a blacklight instead of trusting clueless people who know about 1/100th of what you know.

Cards were not that expensive in the old days and the naked eye appearance was more important than a portfolio purchase.

Dano
Hey Dan
Nothing personal here, but a friendly debate. I have had a black-light, in working order, for 10+ yrs. The color wasn't fluorescent. When it was pointed out to me after the fact I saw it. I just missed it. They didn't.
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