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View Poll Results: Do Roger Maris or Albert Belle belong in the HOF? | |||
Maris only | 82 | 28.47% | |
Belle only | 44 | 15.28% | |
Both | 33 | 11.46% | |
Neither | 129 | 44.79% | |
Voters: 288. You may not vote on this poll |
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Still no
Albert’s HOF voting record is dismal.
Writers and committees have had 18 years to vote him in, but they don’t appear to believe he is a HOFer either. If you peak @ 7.7% then drop off the ballot after two tries, you don’t have much support for the folks best able to put you in. I’m not saying he wasn’t a good hitter. His numbers are good. But there are a lot of hitters with good numbers. Quote:
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Albert "don't call me Joey" Belle was a force when he played. He was only 33 when he left baseball. Calling him the Barry Sanders of baseball may be a stretch, but he did some damage when he played.
What if Roger only had 59 HRs in 1961? Would there be a discussion about it? From what I've read Roger and Joey were probably opposites when it comes to "public relations" but when you look at just the stats and remove all other considerations, how do these two stack up?
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My opinion is that the writers have shown over the years that they don’t have much of a clue about what they are doing. Whitaker and Trammell had almost identical career numbers and both played at a position where their numbers rank him among other hof members. Whitaker was off the ballot in a year. Trammell stayed on the ballot and gained support over the years and was finally put in by the vets. Just because the voters didn’t vote for a player doesn’t mean that they don’t deserve it.
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I said both but I am for a large hall of fame.
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Whitaker on the other hand played a much easier position where HOFers have put up more offense (Hornsby, Collins, Lajoie, Morgan, Carew, Jackie) and his career numbers are slightly below average for his position for a HOFer. In particular, he had a low 7 year peak (as did Maris & Belle) while Trammell had a much higher peak along with WS MVP and AL MVP 2nd place. Whitaker only received MVP votes once, finishing 8th. He should have received more support from HOF voters, but he really isn't a strong candidate. He is behind Bobby Grich and Chase Utley among weak 2b candidates, both of which never had strong individual seasons (higher than 7th or 8th in MVP voting). |
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Ripken was a SS through age 35. Not exactly shabby offensive numbers.
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ops+ 112.
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95.9 war
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