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Posted By: runscott

It would be easy to hog this subject, but I'll just state the predictable one:

Mordecai Brown and Ed Reulbach

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Old 08-30-2002, 11:05 AM
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Tim Keefe & Mickey Welch

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Old 08-30-2002, 11:11 AM
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Posted By: Elliot

Spahn and Sain and pray for rain.

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Old 08-30-2002, 11:27 AM
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Posted By: Dan Mathewson

Christy & his Fadeaway.

An unbeatable duo, with a MLB record almost a hundred years old, still holding today...

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Old 08-30-2002, 11:36 AM
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Posted By: ty_cobb

I'll go with Eddie Plank and Jack Coombs.
Coombs led the majors in wins in 1910(31)
and 1911(28)and had an amazing 1.30 ERA
in 1910. Inexplicably absent from the T206 set.

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Old 08-30-2002, 11:45 AM
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Old 08-30-2002, 12:03 PM
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Posted By: Goudey Guy

I probably won't get too many in agreement on this, but I'd take "the Big Train" and any one of the many dogged second bests from any of the Washington teams he was on. If Johnson would have played on average team or better his whole career (like some others had the fortune of doing), he would have blown away a lot more records. I'd even have to say he was the best pitcher ever, with stiff competition from Matty and maybe a couple others. Always been a big Warren Spahn fan too.

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Old 08-30-2002, 12:04 PM
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Posted By: jay behrens

I'll take The Big Train and his fastball over Matty.

Good question. My first thought was Vida Blue and Catfish Hunter with Rollie Fingers coming out of the bullpen

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Old 08-30-2002, 12:26 PM
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Posted By: Glen V

Satchel Paige against either Matty or the Big Train

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Old 08-30-2002, 12:36 PM
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Posted By: runscott

...not to be too picky!

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Posted By: Glen V

Sorry, wasn't paying attention. I was just looking at the names and started thinking who I'ld like to see pitch against each other.

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Old 08-30-2002, 12:53 PM
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Posted By: Ryan Christoff

Glen,

If you want Satchel, you can go with Satch & Hilton Smith on the 1941-1947 K.C. Monarchs. Both are HOFers.

For an even better Monarchs HOF duo, I'd pick the 1936 team with Satchel Paige and Bullet Joe Rogan.

-Ryan

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Old 08-30-2002, 01:06 PM
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Posted By: stutor

I'll take Old Hoss Radbourn and Charlie Sweeney (Providence Grays).

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Posted By: runscott

Some duels that were highly anticipated in their day: Rucker and Mathewson, Johnson and Joe Wood

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Posted By: Andy Baran

Mathewson & McGinnity
Plank & Bender & Waddell
Babe Ruth & Joe Wood
Cicotte & Williams

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Old 10-07-2005, 09:40 AM
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Posted By: Roy Miller

Walter Johnson
Warren Spahn
Bob Gibson
Nolan Ryan
Charlie Hough

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Posted By: jackgoodman

Not quite vintage, but Whitey Ford and Luis Arroyo in the early 60's.

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Posted By: Chad

Martin Dihigo and Chet Brewer for the Aguilas Cibaenas. They were the team that faced off against the Trujillo All Stars in the Dominican championship game in 1937, maybe the most legendary game in Negro League/Latin baseball history.

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Old 10-07-2005, 10:16 AM
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Posted By: Scott Forrest

...proof that I'm not a "newbie"

On re-reading the original post, there's really nothing obvious about Reulbach - many of you know him only as a guy who has two action shots in the t206 'set' and no portrait.

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Old 10-07-2005, 10:34 AM
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Posted By: T206Collector

Matty and McGinnity. But I do want to comment on Roy's post, which included Nolan Ryan in the same rotation as Walter Johnson, Warren Spahn, Bob Gibson and Charlie Hough. I thought that was funny because there's 8 billion guys I'd rather have rounding out my rotation than Ryan and Charlie Hough is 8,000,000,000th on the list. Ryan follows Hough at 8,000,000,001, followed by Anthony Young and the guy I buy my bagel from every morning.

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Posted By: DJ

Charlie Hough?

How about Ed Whitson?

Gotta go with: Mathewson and McGinnity.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

Koufax and Drysdale
Reynolds and Raschi
Johnson and Schilling

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Posted By: scott ingold

Now there's a name i don't expect mixed in with the greats.

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Posted By: Kevin Cummings

Early Wynn and Bob Lemon were a pretty good pairing for the Cleveland Indians from 1949 through 1957.

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Posted By: Matt Goebel

I've always though it was Smokey Joe Williams and Cannonball Redding. Both young and scary.

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Posted By: jay behrens

Certainly not the greatest combo, Ryan and Tanana, but easily the greatest combo for pure heat.

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Posted By: Chad

They were pretty fast, too.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

1904 Highlanders (Double Jacks)

Jack Chesbro....41 - 12 and Jack Powell....23 - 9

Check-me-out on this; but, no two pitchers ever won
more games between them in a season than these two
guys.

Totals = 65 won and 21 lost..which = .765 %

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Posted By: T206Collector

Chesbro had the wild pitch that blew the pennant for the Yankees that year.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

T206

In the 1st game of the final day in 1904 (double header
playoff) with the Boston Pilgrims.....Chesbro not only
cost the Highlanders the Pennant with his "wild pitch",
but he committed the "cardinal sin" by not pitching a
"waste pitch" to Freddy Parent on an 0 - 2 count. So,
it was worst than you noted.

But, the worst event that followed that season was that
the NY Giants refused to play Boston in the World Series.
McGraw and Brush (of the Giants) said that Boston was not
worthy of playing and the Giants just declared themselves
the Champions.

All this because "Happy Jack" Chesbro blew the game for NY.

And, 100 years later Boston got its revenge on NY.

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Posted By: Scott Forrest

I'd take Ryan and Sam McDowell. It would have been real interesting to have see "Sudden Sam" pitching for a contender in his prime.

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Posted By: Paul Stratton

Ed Cicotte and Smokey Joe Wood

Maybe not the greatest, but certainly two of the most collected pitchers.

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Posted By: Clinton Hromek

Babe Ruth and Carl Mays were pretty good in 1917.

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Posted By: robert a

To give you an idea of how good the Cubs were in those years.

Reulbach and 3 Finger Brown weren't even the best pitching duo on the team in the late part of the first decade of the 20th century.

Orval Overall and Brown are pretty impressive. Add reulbach in there and it's just rediculous.

Matty and Marquard are a nice duo too.

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Posted By: Darren J Duet

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Posted By: Andrew Parks

How about Coombs and Plank? Followed by Plank and Bender.

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Posted By: John Spencer

Not exactly vintage either but Robin Roberts and Curt Simmons, before he cut his toe off with a lawnmower, were a solic duo for the Phillies.

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Posted By: Anson

Certainly not vintage, but Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling wern't half bad. You could also throw Maddux and Glavine in there.

How about Hooks Wiltse with Mathewson? Eddie Plank and Chief Bender!

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Posted By: Darren J Duet

any two pitchers for the '27 Yankees

1968 Detroit Denny Mclain and Mickey Lolich
1978 Yankees Ron Guidry and Ed Figueroa
1931 Athletics Lefty Grove and George Earnshaw
1969 Mets Tom Seaver and Jerry Koosman
1904 Highlanders Jack Chesbro and Jack Powell
1908 White Sox Ed Walsh and Doc White
1916 Philadelphia Pete Alexander and Eppa Rixey
1904 Pigrims Cy Young and Bill Dineen
1979 Astros J.R. Richard and Joe Niekro
1985 Mets Dwight Gooden and Ron Darling
1916/17 Red Sox Babe Ruth and Dutch Leonard
1934 Yankees Lefty Gomez and Red Ruffing

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Posted By: john/z28jd

Al Spalding and Harry Wright,the only 2 pitchers for the 1871-1874 Boston Red Stockings went a combined 154-52....at least if you asked Harry Wright,thats how he would say it happened

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