Local Auction help

[Deertick]

Was at this auction last month and they had a TON of autographed stuff (5 Ali, 10 Koufax, 500 HR club, Mantles galore). Almost all had a COA from some guy with an AOL email address, can't remember his name. I told anyone around me that I would not bid on this crap, but it all sold. Now, they have another batch, a lot of it similar to last month. How can I get this place to reconsider screwing people? And I know, buyers need to research, but when the auctioneer is saying "Guaranteed Authentic, comes with a COA!" most casual "fans" will jump. Here is the link, autos are down a bit.

http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/ph...ry=0&zip=&kwd=

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Yuck, porcelain signed baseballs. Some look to be certified by GAI, depending on when they were authenticated, they were very reputable in the beginning with Gutierrez.

[Fuddjcal]

all of the Mantles I found are clear cut forgeries. Some who have the forgers best friend Christopher MORAL LESS. Not a problem though because the buyers are f'ing morons and it really doesn't hurt anybody. When PSA & JSA make mistakes...it hurts people. This is a crime that only affects the Legally moronic././ I hope this helps Anyone buying anything from this auction ZIP site simply has SHIT FOR BRAINS, so I could care less.

The autograph industry has jumped so far over the shark it is sickening from where I sit. Some will say this isn't a problem. It's only a problem if you are a jack ass and buy it. MARK MY WORDS....I WILL never PURCHASE ANOTHER AUTOGRAPH AS LONG AS I LIVE. TOO many f faces in the forgery business for my liking and the scum bag loser at Auction Zip is another example of a PIMPLE that needs to be popped by the authorities.

The forgers and sellers like this auctionzip jack ass knows what we all know. Law enforcementis completly inept just like all government and could give a rats ass. They have to stop Marijuana first., while poeple are all f'ed up and addicted to harmful substances like alcohol, tobacco & prescription drugs... fake autographs don't rate so all you forgers!!!! Have at it. There is still obviouslly a large enough audience of idoits out there so go get em. If they want to be complete idiots...just let them, who really cares. They get what they want a cheap thrill and the forgers get what they want...their money so it's a win win.

[Deertick]

As I look closer, some are eBay-banned CSC.

This is a live, in-person auction that allows internet bids. Auction Zip just list all auctions, sorta like your newspaper does in the classifieds. So it's not "Auction Zip idiots." FWIW

[scooter729]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

all of the Mantles I found are clear cut forgeries. Some who have the forgers best friend Christopher MORAL LESS. Not a problem though because the buyers are f'ing morons and it really doesn't hurt anybody.

There is still obviouslly a large enough audience of idoits out there so go get em. If they want to be complete idiots...just let them, who really cares.

This is an ignorant statement. When I was new to the hobby back in the 90s, I bought items from Coach's Corner. I loved sports and thought this was neat stuff - am I an "f'ing moron"?

Fortunately I learned my lesson quickly and got rid of the few junk items I bought, and it didn't discourage me from this great hobby though I was out a few hundred bucks or so. But how many people don't know how to do their homework, buy these forgeries (maybe as a gift for a loved one who like sports?) and then are turned off of a great hobby when they lose some money? A good deal, I'm sure.

I think I've got some common sense (and a Harvard master's degree, FWIW), so I'd like to think that taking a leap of faith with an autograph I didn't research doesn't make me an f'ing moron.

Sometimes people need to think a bit before making a statement - geez...

Scott S@r!@n

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by scooter729

This is an ignorant statement. When I was new to the hobby back in the 90s, I bought items from Coach's Corner. I loved sports and thought this was neat stuff - am I an "f'ing moron"?

Fortunately I learned my lesson quickly and got rid of the few junk items I bought, and it didn't discourage me from this great hobby though I was out a few hundred bucks or so. But how many people don't know how to do their homework, buy these forgeries (maybe as a gift for a loved one who like sports?) and then are turned off of a great hobby when they lose some money? A good deal, I'm sure.

I think I've got some common sense (and a Harvard master's degree, FWIW), so I'd like to think that taking a leap of faith with an autograph I didn't research doesn't make me an f'ing moron.

Sometimes people need to think a bit before making a statement - geez...

Scott S@r!@n

spoken like a true collector with more money than brains.... I stand by my ignorant comment that people are basically idiots who buy this stuff with more money than brains. If you find it fun, that 50% of all autographs and probably 100% on that site alone are forgeries...please be my guest, enjoy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ZEEEEEEE what FUN!!!!!!


and yes, buying an autograph you know nothing about with all the forgeries out there DOES make you a moron. Sorry to break it to you. Maybe not a legal moron, because you did prove you could learn a few things, but sadly others don't. I stand by my original comment that if you buy autographs from a place like AUCTION ZIP the home of the forgery, yes you are an IDIOT and not a little idiot.... a BIG ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!With or with-out an ivy league college degree.

[yanks12025]

Fuddjcal,
So because I go on auctionzip to find auctions, I guess I have shit for brains? It's a website to find local auctions, which not all of them sell trash.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by yanks12025

Fuddjcal,
So because I go on auctionzip to find auctions, I guess I have shit for brains? It's a website to find local auctions, which not all of them sell trash.

Funny though how I have never seen a legitimate autograph on that site....so THEY are a bredding GROUND FOR FORGERIES...I just call them as I see them....Crooks know that site is an easy mark and they are on it like fly's on shit.....If you buy autographs on that site...you have a better chance of winning a game of pick-up stix with your butt cheeks than finding a legitimate autograph there. so if you are searching that site for autographs...yes you are an idiot. You may be a reasonable guya and a smart one in other aspects of your life but where autographs are concerned only a complete cheap, jack ass would by from that site.....Have at it. i'v esaid all I'm going to say about it. If you want to try and outsmart them...go right ahead Einstein

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by Deertick

Was at this auction last month and they had a TON of autographed stuff (5 Ali, 10 Koufax, 500 HR club, Mantles galore). Almost all had a COA from some guy with an AOL email address, can't remember his name. I told anyone around me that I would not bid on this crap, but it all sold. Now, they have another batch, a lot of it similar to last month. How can I get this place to reconsider screwing people? And I know, buyers need to research, but when the auctioneer is saying "Guaranteed Authentic, comes with a COA!" most casual "fans" will jump. Here is the link, autos are down a bit.

http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/ph...ry=0&zip=&kwd=

Junk, junk, junk. They must get their inventory from Always at Auction... The home of the $14.95 Mantles.

[RichardSimon]

Those $14.95 Mantle's (plus $22 shipping , don't forget that mini scam), sure get around.
As do all the other suk pieces of sh-- in that auction.
What goes around comes around T.