Rebacked T206's....heck NO....perhaps, they are Re-Fronted DRUM, HINDU cards ?

[toppcat]

Ted-looks like you have your own "super prints"!

[tedzan]

One can never have enough white-bordered Cobb's......if you cannot find the one you are looking for, then make a fake


TED Z

[steve B]

Am I the only one that noticed the PSA plank and the SGC Plank are different?

Look at the lower right corner area, at the fold in the shirtsleeve just next to the right border. One is obviously clear of the border, the other is partly obscured by the border. Did the restorations move the borders in, or are they printed differently?


Steve B

[JP]

Originally Posted by steve B

Am I the only one that noticed the PSA plank and the SGC Plank are different?

Look at the lower right corner area, at the fold in the shirtsleeve just next to the right border. One is obviously clear of the border, the other is partly obscured by the border. Did the restorations move the borders in, or are they printed differently?

Of course they're different. They aren't the same card. Those are the only two restored 150s that I know of...

[steve B]

Of course, they're different individual cards, I was writing about the variation like difference in the cropping of the picture.

The upper SGC card is cropped differently from the PSA card and the lower SGC card. Unless the restorers moved the border in quite a bit.

Steve B

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by steve B

I was writing about the variation like difference in the cropping of the picture. The upper SGC card is cropped differently from the PSA card and the lower SGC card. Unless the restorers moved the border in quite a bit.

I see that, too. There is more left armpit in the PSA restored example. But, hey, if you're willing to pay for a restored example, you're evidently willing to pay for less original armpit!

[tedzan]

There is something strange about that SGC-A Plank (in post #42). I've compared it with a dozen other Plank's,
and none of their pictures are shifted to the right as that one is. This shift is ever so slight; nevertheless, it is
significant enough to raise some questions regarding that card.

Has anyone here seen a similar looking Plank ?


TED Z

[ullmandds]

so if you shine a black light on that plank...will it light up like bioluminescence in Vieques under a thin moon? Will it shine like a menorah on day 8? Maybe the rt(anatomic left) armpit appears diffferent because the whole image was painted thereby enlarging the appearance. The left side appears the same distance from border to neck/arm area...its just the rt armit detail is more vivid. Or am I not seeing it?

[RichMcGillicuddy]

Is this what happens if the glue doesn't stick?

http://cgi.ebay.com/1910-T206-Ty-Cob...ht_1288wt_1140

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by onlychild

HA! I'm the village idiot, so I imagine there are plenty more out there that can do this. I just happened to stumble upon the technique by accident while doing some experiments that many would consider unthinkable.

I've always been under the impression that cards are just a single piece of cardboard with ink...and if it was done once it could be done again.



Yep, it was free and I only live about 30 miles away. I wasn't planning on showing them tips, I was going to give them step by step instructions along with the formulas and how to's. Then they would know exactly what to look for, since it's not always black and white. Was also going show them security concerns with their flips, which as predicted, is now a big problem.

cant PSA/SGC just go to your website?

just wondering, i looked at you site, amazing! if i was a deceitful, lying thief, i would LOVE YOUR SITE for the Info it gave me to be bad!

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by ScottFandango

If i was a deceitful, lying thief, i would LOVE YOUR SITE for the Info it gave me to be bad!

That's the flip side to education -- you educate the good guys and they learn how to avoid the bad guys; but then the bad guys also learn how to outsmart the good guys.

[FUBAR]

Well if you get good enough at being bad, you can at least get a job at Coach's Corner!

[onlychild]

cant PSA/SGC just go to your website?

just wondering, i looked at you site, amazing! if i was a deceitful, lying thief, i would LOVE YOUR SITE for the Info it gave me to be bad!

SGC and PSA would already know about these types of alterations. Just thought PSA would benefit from knowing how the some of the advanced techniques were done in detail. Both GAI and Beckett adjusted their security measures based on what info they were personally given.

Tough subject to write about. Give too much info and it becomes a learning tool. Not enough and they complain that it not enough, which is typically the case.

For the most part I just try to show the end results and some things to look for. There are far too many steps to complete almost each alteration that it requires more knowledge than what is supplied. For the most part, if you were a deceitful lying thief, there is "probably" not enough there that could turn you into a successful card doctor right away.

Kevin

[ScottFandango]

Originally Posted by onlychild

SGC and PSA would already know about these types of alterations. Just thought PSA would benefit from knowing how the some of the advanced techniques were done in detail. Both GAI and Beckett adjusted their security measures based on what info they were personally given.

Tough subject to write about. Give too much info and it becomes a learning tool. Not enough and they complain that it not enough, which is typically the case.

For the most part I just try to show the end results and some things to look for. There are far too many steps to complete almost each alteration that it requires more knowledge than what is supplied. For the most part, if you were a deceitful lying thief, there is "probably" not enough there that could turn you into a successful card doctor right away.

Kevin

i understand

[tbob]

I'd rather have a slightly altered or restored card in an authentic holder than a beater in a 10 holder so I agree with Wonka and Jim.
P.S. This week the wife and I have been married 39 years and she has tolerated my card collecting for 25 of them

[barrysloate]

Bob- this Tuesday is my 25th and Judy has tolerated it from day one!