Poll: do Baines and/or Smith belong in the Hall?

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Baines getting in is a joke IMO....I dont get it. He had a batting average of .280 with the White sox for 14 years.....Big Deal! Lifetime average .289??? What am I missing??

Lee Smith...71-92 W-L record, 3.05 ERA.....What am I missing with this guy? Is there any other pitcher in the Hall with a losing record?? Just saying....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Lee Smith...71-92 W-L record, 3.05 ERA.....What am I missing with this guy?

Saves.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Saves.

I get that Peter, but it can even more amplify his ERA with the situations he inherits....

[Kenny Cole]

This has been going on since at least 1946. I'm neither surprised nor concerned. It really all depends upon your viewpoint about what the HOF is or should be. I'm not a small hall guy, so I am sure I am less unhappy than small hall folks are. But I would suggest that even small hall folks would have to acknowledge (grudgingly) that Baines isn't even close to the worst of some of the other folks who have been elected. I understand that I would also get the explanations about why that doesn't or shouldn't matter and how that "waters down" the HOF. But, irrespective of all that, the fact is that the HOF was "watered down" 72 years ago, and, depending on how you view Sisler, maybe 7 years earlier. It happened. Smith and Baines are both members. I'm pretty sure the world isn't going to end because of this vote.

[Peter_Spaeth]

LOL that's a pretty low standard Kenny. I doubt the world is going to end because of anything we discuss here.

[Kenny Cole]

Nor will the HOF cease to exist as we know it.

[conor912]

My wife thinks men are effing this (among most other things) up and women should take over the voting. It's getting harder to disagree with her.