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Old 09-11-2019, 03:32 PM
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I need to agree with Leon on this one. The BSW cards have provenance...if one wants to purchase a high grade card, now more than ever provenance is important. My reason for picking one up while I was able. And yes, I think close to 40k in the next non-PWCC auctions for a PSA 9...I think the average sale for BSF 9s is in the 35k to 38k range based on past PSA 9 sales.
Sure, riddle me this. Why were they so miscut, when not a single example had ever surfaced before nor after bearing this trait?
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I predicted in another thread that this Cobb would sell for quite a bit less than its last auction appearance, so I am not surprised at all. There are simply too many BSF cards, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the appearance is the same ones keep being offered for sale again and again. When was the last time anyone has seen a major auction without multiple BSF cards? There seems to be a never ending supply, and the market is burned out.

Add to that the possibility that the family held back a lot more E98's, and you can see why prices are going down. There is no sense of these being rare. Instead, they are seen by many as The Black Swamp Glut.
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Sure, riddle me this. Why were they so miscut, when not a single example had ever surfaced before nor after bearing this trait?
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Cast offs? No clue but it always seemed strange most these examples are unique in that way

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A run that was rejected perhaps, and now people are paying 50K for one.
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A run that was rejected perhaps, and now people are paying 50K for one.
Aint that a kick in the rear! I always felt the real nice centered minor HOFers in psa 9 would eventually see a spike in price.

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I suppose it’s possible that whoever originally owned the black swamp cards had them in uncut sheets and may be hired out someone to cut them and maybe that’s how they got cut that way??

Yet as soon as I typed this I realize that doesn’t make sense how does one account for there being so few Jennings cards?
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Perhaps a new thread should be started to discuss these cards? Are there known e98 uncut sheets??
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I suppose it’s possible that whoever originally owned the black swamp cards had them in uncut sheets and may be hired out someone to cut them and maybe that’s how they got cut that way??

Yet as soon as I typed this I realize that doesn’t make sense how does one account for there being so few Jennings cards?
Almost no Mathewsons, right?
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Almost no Mathewsons, right?
I believe so?
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Almost no Mathewsons, right?
Very few, if any, cards of Jennings, Lajoie, Mathewson, Tinker and Walsh.
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Not sure why there were fewer of certain players but there is 0 doubt in my mind, and most other collectors, that the cards are real and authentic....and almost untouched. BTW the family members couldn't have been nicer. I met them at the National (with Heritage) when they were originally found.

The PWCC auction had some lower prices but we'll just have to see how it goes in the future. I imagine a lot of factors play into it and one of them is less bidders.

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Yet as soon as I typed this I realize that doesn’t make sense how does one account for there being so few Jennings cards?
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How are the non-find E98s selling?
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