Ty Cobb not the monster many have made him out to be?

[tschock]

Originally Posted by jhs5120

Didn't he beat up a crippled heckler?

So he was basically Ron Artest, but with a crippled veteran.

Just curious. Did you read Leerhsens' book or at least the article referenced by the OP?

[jhs5120]

Originally Posted by tschock

Just curious. Did you read Leerhsens' book or at least the article referenced by the OP?

Yeah, it doesn't refute him beating up some cripple. Actually it added maybe five more people that Cobb beat up in his lifetime. So like, Ron Artest, plus maybe a LeSsan McCoy nightclub brawl with potentially a Ray Rice.

[irv]

Leo Durocher sure doesn't seem to speak too highly of Cobb, and check out the still in the vid shortly after he says that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfcW7yYFhqk

[Tabe]

Originally Posted by irv

Leo Durocher sure doesn't seem to speak too highly of Cobb, and check out the still in the vid shortly after he says that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfcW7yYFhqk

Ooooh, Cobb talked some smack to a rookie. The horror!

As for that still image, the catcher in question actually defended Cobb, said he was going for the ball - and got it.

[Pilot172000]

Originally Posted by irv

Leo Durocher sure doesn't seem to speak too highly of Cobb, and check out the still in the vid shortly after he says that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfcW7yYFhqk

Leo had one run in as a Rookie which is nothing.. I mean Ruth sawed his bat in half because he didn't want Bushers to hit. Both sound rough but not out of bounds.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Ooooh, Cobb talked some smack to a rookie. The horror!

As for that still image, the catcher in question actually defended Cobb, said he was going for the ball - and got it.

Seriously?

Would that be acceptable in today's game? Not likely, but I know things were different then.

I personally have no idea, one way or another, if the horror stories we were told about Cobb are true, but when you hear from past ball players speak about him, I think they carry some merit about what they say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh_kerKBBMw

Not sure how long this story, the good and bad about Cobb, has been going on, but I think like any rumor/tale/story, it will be debated to death with no real conclusion ever to be found.

[Tabe]

Again, nothing much in that clip about Cobb being awful other than repeating the falsehood about the sharpened spikes.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by Tabe

Again, nothing much in that clip about Cobb being awful other than repeating the falsehood about the sharpened spikes.

Actually if you listen to the audio version of "The Glory of..." they have 5-6 interviews with Cobb's teammates - and almost all defend him regarding the sharpening of spikes issue. One teammate - perhaps it was Davey Jones - indicated Cobb even approached the Commish about outlawing sharpened spikes. In the interview, teammates indicate Cobb did not want to be portrayed in that fashion. However, another written source indicates if Cobb did sharpen his spikes, it was an intentional act to unnerve the opposition - and would have done it with some deliberation to be seen by the opposing team.

Sadly, all of his teammates portray Cobb as an intense loner without many friends. And they also state that he was picked on relentlessly - even by his teammates....hiding his glove, stealing his shoes, etc. I imagine that would get tiresome after a while - even for the most patient.

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[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by irv

Seriously?

Would that be acceptable in today's game? Not likely, but I know things were different then.

I personally have no idea, one way or another, if the horror stories we were told about Cobb are true, but when you hear from past ball players speak about him, I think they carry some merit about what they say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dh_kerKBBMw

Not sure how long this story, the good and bad about Cobb, has been going on, but I think like any rumor/tale/story, it will be debated to death with no real conclusion ever to be found.

Nothing is accepted in today's game anymore. They're turning it into a game for fairies.

The Utley rule at second base the Posey rule at home. These guys now make MILLIONS $$ they know full well what they're signing up for and with those MILLIONS they can afford doctors (although they're provided by the teams now) let alone how it was. Players didn't make anything compared to now and had no benefits. The richer the players get the more pampered they get and for some reason unknown to me, a wide variety of people embrace it.

Flag Football.

Sorry I'm no Rachel Phelps but jesus you can't slide hard into second anymore. You can't trample over the catcher anymore. We now have "challenges".

http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2...s_rays_ut.html

It's good to see at least one manager has spoken out in a way.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

Nothing is accepted in today's game anymore. They're turning it into a game for fairies.

The Utley rule at second base the Posey rule at home. These guys now make MILLIONS $$ they know full well what they're signing up for and with those MILLIONS they can afford doctors (although they're provided by the teams now) let alone how it was. Players didn't make anything compared to now and had no benefits. The richer the players get the more pampered they get and for some reason unknown to me, a wide variety of people embrace it.

Flag Football.

Sorry I'm no Rachel Phelps but jesus you can't slide hard into second anymore. You can't trample over the catcher anymore. We now have "challenges".

http://www.nj.com/sports/index.ssf/2...s_rays_ut.html

It's good to see at least one manager has spoken out in a way.

Gibbons got a lot of flack for that!

I hear what you are saying, and I miss old time hockey, but with the current batch of lawsuits due to concussions and after hearing these guys speak who's careers were cut short (never mind the suicides) it has opened my eyes big time!

I know ball is a far cry from hockey as far as injuries go, but it was only a matter of time before ball, and all other sports, were looked at and changed due to ongoing injuries.

Just hope they can do something with all the theatrics in soccer as I might actually watch a game every now and then.