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Old 09-11-2019, 02:18 PM
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Default Scratch on Ryan Diamond Icons Auto?

Hi guys. I do mostly vintage, but have ventured into new cards here lately to get legit some autos of older players Iíve always wanted.

Er, how concerned should I be about this scratch? Itís virtually invisible from the outside if the card is in a holder and sleeve, and visible in the pic like I took only after some twisting around in the light, and holding your mouth just right. Itís really nowhere near as bad as the pic makes it look. I had already left the seller positive feedback. I can go rounds with you on vintage grading, but know next to nothing about how this would be treated if submitted. Does it get bumped like to a 9 or an 8 if that is the only thing wrong, or would it be more severe downgrade like to a 6? Iím considering asking the seller if I can return it, but in reality I am not concerned so much about the grade, (I would not be sending it in) and did just want the card for the auto, so not sure what my next move should be. It is a great looking card otherwise.


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Old 09-11-2019, 02:27 PM
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Hi guys. I do mostly vintage, but have ventured into new cards here lately to get legit some autos of older players Iíve always wanted.

Er, how concerned should I be about this scratch? Itís virtually invisible from the outside if the card is in a holder and sleeve, and visible in the pic like I took only after some twisting around in the light, and holding your mouth just right. Itís really nowhere near as bad as the pic makes it look. I had already left the seller positive feedback. I can go rounds with you on vintage grading, but know next to nothing about how this would be treated if submitted. Does it get bumped like to a 9 or an 8 if that is the only thing wrong, or would it be more severe downgrade like to a 6? Iím considering asking the seller if I can return it, but in reality I am not concerned so much about the grade, (I would not be sending it in) and did just want the card for the auto, so not sure what my next move should be. It is a great looking card otherwise.

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I had a minor surface stain on a buyback auto that dropped surface to "6," resulting in a max grade of 6.5 from Beckett in a similar situation - I would anticipate something similar, though not as drastic since that is REALLY hard to see (so maybe a 7?) BUT it all depends on the grader.

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Old 09-11-2019, 02:30 PM
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7 kinda sucks for a brand new card though. Not really sure what to do...


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7 kinda sucks for a brand new card though. Not really sure what to do...


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Understood! I ultimately kept mine as it was SUPER PC (Chipper Buyback RC Auto from Bowman); may be worth following up with the seller
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Hi guys. I do mostly vintage, but have ventured into new cards here lately to get legit some autos of older players Iíve always wanted.

Er, how concerned should I be about this scratch? Itís virtually invisible from the outside if the card is in a holder and sleeve, and visible in the pic like I took only after some twisting around in the light, and holding your mouth just right. Itís really nowhere near as bad as the pic makes it look. I had already left the seller positive feedback. I can go rounds with you on vintage grading, but know next to nothing about how this would be treated if submitted. Does it get bumped like to a 9 or an 8 if that is the only thing wrong, or would it be more severe downgrade like to a 6? Iím considering asking the seller if I can return it, but in reality I am not concerned so much about the grade, (I would not be sending it in) and did just want the card for the auto, so not sure what my next move should be. It is a great looking card otherwise.


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You're right, John. You should ditch this card immediately. Let me send you my address so I can take it off your hands. Seriously though, if you aren't happy with it, don't keep it.

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If I bought that card, I would demand a refund.
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Or, how about just leaving it as-is and enjoying the card for what it is, a pretty cool signed Ryan card they made 25 of.

The grading company sticking some random number on it won't change that.
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Or, how about just leaving it as-is and enjoying the card for what it is, a pretty cool signed Ryan card they made 25 of.



The grading company sticking some random number on it won't change that.


I know. Iím torn. I agree with you, but I donít collect much stuff like this, and Iím kind of bummed right now itís noticeably less than perfect.


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You're right, John. You should ditch this card immediately. Let me send you my address so I can take it off your hands. Seriously though, if you aren't happy with it, don't keep it.

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You know my OCD, man. I sometimes wonder why I keep getting myself in these situations. I should stick with what I know (vintage...) and be content. This type of scratch on a card from the 1960's that was otherwise nice and I wouldn't give it a second thought.
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