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Old 11-13-2005, 06:06 AM
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Posted By: Don J

Did you all see what the N690 1887 KALAMAZOO BATS went for on Ebay this morning? Incredible! I guess Keith and J.. really wanted them

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Old 11-13-2005, 06:16 AM
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Posted By: Andy Baran

What's the story behind these? I thought that Philly cards from the set were not that rare or expensive.

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Old 11-13-2005, 07:08 AM
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Posted By: leon

Why can't I own common Kalamazoo's that are worth 45k-65k? I'll be the seller is in shock.....

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Old 11-13-2005, 07:11 AM
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Posted By: ramram

I bid on one of the "cheapies" and was runner up to JC. I fell off my seat when I saw the other prices. Who are the two that were battling it out?

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Old 11-13-2005, 07:49 AM
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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

Merkle923 is Keith Olberman, formerly of ESPN and currently of PMSNBC.....
Rockythebulldog is a long time contributor to the board who can out himself if he likes........

They have a tenuous relationship at best I think......interesting bidding. Rocky, what's up with these two? Pose differences or uncatalogued versions?

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Old 11-13-2005, 07:51 AM
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Posted By: Anonymous

The Lyons, Andrews and Casey "cheapies" were reasonable in my opinion, especially being ad-backs. I don't recall ever seeing a McGann or Lyons 3b, but 100k for the pair might flush a few more out market.

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Old 11-13-2005, 08:16 AM
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Posted By: barrysloate

If you look at the bids directly below those placed by Jay and Keith on those two lots, you get a better sense of how they are generally valued in the hobby.

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Old 11-13-2005, 08:23 AM
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Posted By: ramram

Here's the link:

http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&since=30&userid=time_passages&include=0&rows=200&sort=8&completed=1

Notice that Keith even had three more bids in over his $65,000 winning bid. Probably enough to cover his salary from a whole week of his show.

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Old 11-13-2005, 08:29 AM
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Posted By: Anonymous

I hadn't looked at the bid history...

that's pretty viscous.

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Posted By: andy becker

wow. i hadn't looked at the bidding either. they took it from $4141 to $65k.....wow!
the seller must be going wild. selling croby stills and nash xmas ornaments for $24.99

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Old 11-13-2005, 09:13 AM
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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Have they never heard of sniping services?

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Old 11-13-2005, 11:42 AM
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Posted By: Anonymous

what r they worth? 65k is alot for a 1887 non-name guy

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Posted By: Steve Dawson

I just looked in my Lipset Encyclopedia, and neither of the two cards won by "Merkle923" are even listed in it. Could they be new, previously unknown discoveries?


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Old 11-13-2005, 12:28 PM
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Posted By: barrysloate

Lew published his 19th century encyclopedia in 1983. With regard to Kalamazoo Bats in particular, so many new ones have been added to the checklist that his list is obsolete. But the poses looked unusual to me; the bottom line is neither Jay nor Keith had them, or one had what he thought was a unique pose and he protected his investment. That's all you need to know.

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Posted By: cmoking

"or one had what he thought was a unique pose and he protected his investment."

Do those guys really do that? That's a bunch to pay to protect an investment.

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Posted By: tbob

Wow, I am hoping these 2 guys don't discover caramel cards! On the one Kalamazoo card, Keith O. wins it for $1700 if not for Rocky and the card ends up going for 43k. Geez, I bet he wishes Rocky had gone to a ballgame or something instead.

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Old 11-13-2005, 01:32 PM
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Posted By: barrysloate

They are both very alert and know exactly what is available at any given time. You can't slip one past the goalie if a unique N690 is for sale. If they could only learn to cooperate.

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Posted By: Glenn

Ah, the prisoner's dilemma.

Where did Dick Trickle finish in the bidding?

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Posted By: Ben

I didn't think I'd come out on top when I bid on the Andrews late last night, but lo and behold, my bid lasted all night and it's mine for $1580. For a card with nice corners, perfect photo and clean ad back, that's pretty darn reasonable if you ask me. My first pickup in months. Now, on to finding a way to pay for it

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Old 11-13-2005, 03:19 PM
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Posted By: Steve Dawson

Congrats Ben

That's a nice card, but what's with the trapezoidal cut...none of the edges are parallel to the opposite edge!


Steve

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Posted By: Marc S.

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<< Notice that Keith even had three more bids in over his $65,000 winning bid. Probably enough to cover his salary from a whole week of his show.>>

For what it's worth - I know that many collectors will tend to set up similar snipes with two or three different services. That sort of snipe redundancy is a fail-safe protection in case one of your snipe services fails [it happens].

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Old 11-13-2005, 05:26 PM
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Posted By: cmoking

Those weren't snipe bids. It doesn't look like he used a snipe service at all. It looks like he kept thinkng about it and just kept putting in higher prices just in case.

The timing of the bids.
Nov 4 7:58
Nov 12 11:21
Nov 12 22:19
Nov 13 05:00

He's a funny guy (love him on the radio show with Dan Patrick on Fridays), and he has the money - but clearly he doesn't care about how much he spends on these cards otherwise he'd have easily figured out a smarter way to bid.

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Old 11-15-2005, 01:19 PM
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Posted By: MikeB

On page64 of issue #10 of VCBC, Olbermann has a list of Kalamazoo Bats that he is looking for.
The McGan is listed, but not the Lyons. Maybe a new pose?

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Posted By: Ron Toth, Jr.

Thank you to all of you who had bid on these Kalamazoo Bats cards back when they were auctioned. Hopefully we will find more of them in the future.

"When you are really good, they call you Cracker Jack"

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