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Old 08-18-2008, 06:58 AM
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Posted By: Bruce Dorskind



This year the Rangers' Ian Kinsler and the Phils' Chase Utly have a strong chance to be named MVPs.
If both of them win the the MVP Awards, it will be the first time in more than 50 years that the MVP of each League was a second baseman.


The last time it happened, both players appeared in the same baseball card set.

Who were the players and show us their cards from the winning year.



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Old 08-18-2008, 08:10 AM
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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

Bruces,

Are you (y'all?) just having a chuckle at our expense on this one? This question doesn't seem to add up. As far as I can recall, only three second basemen won the award longer than 50 years ago, and never one in each league in the same season. Can you give me a hint as to the loophole? Is the trick that one of them may have plaed 2B minimally in another season?

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Old 08-18-2008, 08:18 AM
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Posted By: Steve

Not sure that it ever happened.


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Old 08-18-2008, 08:19 AM
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Posted By: Matt

The Chalmers award was won by Evers and Collins in 1914.

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Old 08-18-2008, 08:29 AM
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Old 08-18-2008, 08:31 AM
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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

I didn't think back far enough.

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

this would be the first time in nearly 100 years. as much as i wish it were so, it is not 1964 anymore. but i have to say, i highly doubt either player will win the award. kinsler's team has no hcance of making the play offs which questions his value to the team and utley has cooled off a ton lately. he had 19 homers at the end of may and has only hit 11 since.

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Old 08-18-2008, 09:31 AM
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Posted By: howard

Here's a line this Yankee fan never thought he would write:

Kevin Youkilis is the AL MVP so far.

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Old 08-18-2008, 09:56 AM
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Howard,
That has to be the funniest thing i have heard this whole year so far. It's going to be Josh Hamilton(which i dont agree with people when they call him a Hero) or K-Rod.

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Old 08-18-2008, 10:14 AM
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Posted By: howard

I agree w/you, Brock, that one of those guys might win it. I was just giving my opinion on who I would vote for. I also agree that Hamilton is no hero. It's impressive and admirable how he has come back from his (self-inflicted) woes but I'm more impressed w/the guys who never did drugs in the first place.

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I'll go with K-Rod. He'll have 60+ saves on the team with the best record.

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I have a bad feeling that you're right, Barry. Hamilton will probably lose some votes to his teammate Kinsler and I don't think the Angels have any other viable candidates. If K-Rod wins it could be the worst MVP choice ever. He's on pace for fewer than 70 IP, is issuing over 5 BBs per, and is arguably not even the best reliever on his own team this year (I'd say Arredondo has been better and Shields about as good).

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Posted By: barrysloate

Saves is a tricky statistic, and I've only seen the guy pitch against the Yankees. But he still may get it.

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

i think cliff lee might be a darkhorse for the AL MVP award. right now he is 17-2 with a 2.43 ERA. the indians as a team have only won 56 games. that means lee by himself is responsible for winning 30 percent of all of clevelands games. i dont think there is any other single player who can make the claim that they alone are responsible for 30 percent of their team's wins.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Lee is the current favorite for the Cy Young, but not the MVP.

How about Sabathia for the NL Cy Young? He's 7-0 with a 1.55 ERA (but it will go to Webb).

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Look at Santana's statistics compared to Webb's; they are eerily similar but for wins. Had the Mets' bullpen not blown six Santana wins, he might be the leading Cy Young candidate.

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

lee will bring the debate and focus of "value" in the most valuable player award. i dont think it can be argued that k-rod is the most valuable player to the angels considering he hasn't been particularly dominant and has a walk ratio that would be almost 4.5 per 9 innings and isn't even the best pitcher on the team.

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Santana has been pitching great but the Mets' bullpen can be god awful. Didn't he leave a game recently well ahead after 8 innings and the relievers surrendered six runs in the 9th?

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