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Old 04-13-2023, 07:23 PM
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Default Starting to lose faith in PSA with this kind of stuff....

Submitted a 22 card order for grading with PSA of these rare '55 and '56 Topps Hocus Focus cards and paid for the expedited value plus level ($40 per card with an estimated 20 business day turnaround time). Order took 43 business days to process and ship back (they got them on 2/8), I received the package today and find this gem in there, SMH you can't make this stuff up (or upside down in this case). How the heck with 8 steps of the grading process and multiple quality control measures supposedly in place can someone not notice that the freaking card is upside down in the grading holder? It's almost like it's a joke.

Really strongly thinking twice about using them anymore after experiences like this.

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Old 04-13-2023, 07:30 PM
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Old 04-13-2023, 07:39 PM
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Submitted a 22 card order for grading with PSA of these rare '55 and '56 Topps Hocus Focus cards and paid for the expedited value plus level ($40 per card with an estimated 20 business day turnaround time). Order took 43 business days to process and ship back (they got them on 2/8), I received the package today and find this gem in there, SMH you can't make this stuff up (or upside down in this case). How the heck with 8 steps of the grading process and multiple quality control measures supposedly in place can someone not notice that the freaking card is upside down in the grading holder? It's almost like it's a joke.

Really strongly thinking twice about using them anymore after experiences like this.

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Will be curious to hear what their response is after you contact them to let them know of their mistake. And you're right, you can't make this make this stuff up. Hang in there.
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Old 04-13-2023, 07:41 PM
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You ever notice how they keep everything secret at PSA? They make the employees sign non disclosures what they disseminate out and how they grade is strictly guarded. Makes me think it’s a total shit show within that company. No way is there multiple graders looking at each card. If there was this wouldn’t have happened.

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Old 04-13-2023, 07:41 PM
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I'll see your Wally Moon and raise you a Jackie Robinson

Take a look at this "Canadian" RED tint Exhibit card of Jackie Robinson!

Neither a RED tint or a Canadian Exhibit which have the card number in a diamond.

This is a normal 47-66 Exhibit card

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38553692625...Bk9SR9TQs47uYQ
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Old 04-13-2023, 07:52 PM
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You ever notice how they keep everything secret at PSA? They make the employees sign non disclosures what they disseminate out on how they grade is strictly guarded. Makes me think it’s a total shit show within that company. No way is there multiple graders looking at each card. If there was this wouldn’t have happened.
I suspect the “real graders” only look at it before it’s been slabbed. After that, I’m guessing that only the QC people take a look.

Of course, I could be all wet.
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Old 04-13-2023, 08:03 PM
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No way is there multiple graders looking at each card. If there was this wouldn’t have happened.
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Every once in a while, you just gotta say, "WTF", right Matt ?
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I would definitely be getting a free reslab and some free grade credits. Get something for your wasted time and their incompetence.
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As evidenced by this graded Hocus Focus card, I believe PSA is now requiring the cow to jump over a turned Moon.

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Zero chance they have multiple graders looking at each card. The variance across submission results is way too high, and has scaled in proportion to the size of their grading team.

I believe that they probably have multiple graders looking at 52 Mantles, 48 Leaf Paiges, and BN Ruths, but zero chance they're putting multiple graders on lower-end submissions.
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Ahh. I see you have the famous Inverted Wally.
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Old 04-14-2023, 10:13 AM
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I'll see your Wally Moon and raise you a Jackie Robinson

Take a look at this "Canadian" RED tint Exhibit card of Jackie Robinson!

Neither a RED tint or a Canadian Exhibit which have the card number in a diamond.

This is a normal 47-66 Exhibit card

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38553692625...Bk9SR9TQs47uYQ

I’m convinced they put whatever the submitter has on the form. They don’t verify or do any research. If you think it is such card they will slab it as such. So so many non Topps Tiffany cards with Tiffany designation on the slab. It’s not just a one off. It’s pretty obvious on those and a pretty egregious error. I really don’t know what kind of system they got going over there. I wish someone would break their Area 51 like silence and let us know.


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I’m convinced they put whatever the submitter has on the form. They don’t verify or do any research. If you think it is such card they will slab it as such.
I believe this might be a case of the submitter sending the card to PSA upside down in the Card Saver sleeve.

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In an attempt to re-craft the narrative, PSA has released a picture of who they claim actually submitted the card...

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Old 04-15-2023, 12:49 PM
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You could do what other do, and use it to your advantage and list it on eBay as a RARE PSA ERROR and price it at 10x+ the non error sells for. I've seen many other PSA ERROR listings in the past.

PSA makes mistakes more often than they should. My first time getting cards graded, was about a year after they started grading cards, and I had sent in 5 cards, which were the free vouchers for the membership purchase. Back then, Griffey Jr was in high demand. I had 4 different rookies, and the 5th card I sent in was a regular 1984 Topps Mattingly rookie. The Mattingly came back labeled as a Tiffany card. I haven't graded a card since. So, it's been 30 or 31 years since I've had a card graded.
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Sorry its upside down, but thats a GREAT card. Congrats on having it.
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