NonSports Forum

Net54baseball.com
Welcome to Net54baseball.com. These forums are devoted to both Pre- and Post- war baseball cards and vintage memorabilia, as well as other sports. There is a separate section for Buying, Selling and Trading - the B/S/T area!! If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it. . Contact the moderator at leon@net54baseball.com should you have any questions or concerns. When you click on links to eBay on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network. Enjoy!
Net54baseball.com
Net54baseball.com
T206s on eBay
Babe Ruth Cards on eBay
t206 Ty Cobb on eBay
Ty Cobb Cards on eBay
Lou Gehrig Cards on eBay
Baseball T201-T217 on eBay
Baseball E90-E107 on eBay
T205 Cards on eBay
Baseball Postcards on eBay
Goudey Cards on eBay
Baseball Memorabilia on eBay
Baseball Exhibit Cards on eBay
Baseball Strip Cards on eBay
Baseball Baking Cards on eBay
Sporting News Cards on eBay
Play Ball Cards on eBay
Joe DiMaggio Cards on eBay
Mickey Mantle Cards on eBay
Bowman 1951-1955 on eBay
Football Cards on eBay

Go Back   Net54baseball.com Forums > Net54baseball Main Forum - WWII & Older Baseball Cards > Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used > Autograph Forum- Primarily Sports

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-16-2014, 10:01 PM
johnmh71 johnmh71 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 552
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by niembre View Post
I had my wife's grandmother email me the story because she is now in her mid 80's and he passed away in the 80's. The ball had been in a ball holder sitting in their hallway all these years. Here is what she emailed me about the story behind the ball:

The Evans' were all big sports fans especially baseball, Bills' uncles included. Sundays were spent listening then later watching games. Findlay was close enough to Cleveland, Cincinnati- to drive to . They also saw many games in St. Louis, Jane had an Aunt and Uncle There. Because of Genes' Job as Traffic Manager for Ohio Oil, they received many comped tickets, box seats no less.

At one of the Cleveland games the President of the Nickel Plate Railroad ( I am not sure for this--could have been another RR) asked them to his home for dinner after the game.

He was also a huge sports fan and his den was filled with much memorabilia.

As the evening drew to a close He was so impressed with Bills' knowledge of baseball and sports in general , he told him he could choose anything he wanted from his collection--of course the babe Ruth ball was chosen--this was probably around 1936 so Bill would have been about 12.
Oh I'm sure he had no problem parting with what was probably the best item he had. This story is bullshit. It is as bad as the stories of Ruth signing from his death bed in the hospital.
__________________
John Hat.cher
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-17-2014, 03:18 AM
yanks12025's Avatar
yanks12025 yanks12025 is offline
Brock
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: framingham, ma
Posts: 2,144
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmh71 View Post
Oh I'm sure he had no problem parting with what was probably the best item he had. This story is bullshit. It is as bad as the stories of Ruth signing from his death bed in the hospital.
Wow some of you people are just rude!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-17-2014, 09:34 AM
johnmh71 johnmh71 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 552
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by yanks12025 View Post
Wow some of you people are just rude!
Seriously? Maybe I'm just sick of forgeries and the people who put them out into the marketplace to lure an unsuspecting buyer. That to me is about as rude as it gets.
__________________
John Hat.cher
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-17-2014, 09:58 AM
RichardSimon's Avatar
RichardSimon RichardSimon is offline
Richard Simon
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New York City
Posts: 5,425
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmh71 View Post
Seriously? Maybe I'm just sick of forgeries and the people who put them out into the marketplace to lure an unsuspecting buyer. That to me is about as rude as it gets.
+1

This "fish" story reeks. The signature on that baseball is indicative of a modern, very poorly done, forgery. No way is it a clubhouse Ruth. And it does not appear to be a situation where that signature has been on the ball for 80 or 90 years, though I would not say that for certain without at least having the ball in hand.
__________________
Sign up & receive my autograph price list. E mail me,richsprt@aol.com, with your e mail. Sports,entertainment,history.
-
Here is a link to my online store. Many items for sale. 10% disc. for 54 members. E mail me first.
www.bonanza.com/booths/richsports
--
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure."- Clarence Darrow
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-17-2014, 12:43 PM
Duluth Eskimo's Avatar
Duluth Eskimo Duluth Eskimo is offline
Ja.son Hugh.es
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 2,242
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichardSimon View Post
+1

This "fish" story reeks. The signature on that baseball is indicative of a modern, very poorly done, forgery. No way is it a clubhouse Ruth. And it does not appear to be a situation where that signature has been on the ball for 80 or 90 years, though I would not say that for certain without at least having the ball in hand.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. It looks like a modern forgery. The problem with people is that other people commenting need to show everyone they are right. In the end, who cares? He's not getting a buyer or validation from this board.

As for Scott, you're so smart. I wish I was as smart as you. I wish I could prove to everyone how smart I am. Unfortunately for me, I'm just a small fish and will have to swim in the small pool for ever and ever. Does that make you feel better and validate you more?
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-17-2014, 01:24 PM
yanks12025's Avatar
yanks12025 yanks12025 is offline
Brock
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: framingham, ma
Posts: 2,144
Default

Lets see he's a new member and came here and asked a SIMPLE question of whether the auto was good or not. He didn't come here trying to sell the baseball to a member and passing it off as being a legit Ruth. But instead you guys just attack him and accuse him of nothing but lies and everything. When in all fact, maybe his story is legit.

Yeah forgeries are a sh*tty part of this hobby and so are all the lies and stuff. But it still doesn't give anyone the right to accuse others of lies and stuff!
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-17-2014, 02:00 PM
johnmh71 johnmh71 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 552
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by yanks12025 View Post
When in all fact, maybe his story is legit.
Again.....seriously? People attach all kinds of neat stories to things all the time to affirm their value. I'm not saying that the poster did, but someone has or had a good imagination.
__________________
John Hat.cher
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-17-2014, 02:29 PM
RichardSimon's Avatar
RichardSimon RichardSimon is offline
Richard Simon
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: New York City
Posts: 5,425
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by yanks12025 View Post
Lets see he's a new member and came here and asked a SIMPLE question of whether the auto was good or not. He didn't come here trying to sell the baseball to a member and passing it off as being a legit Ruth. But instead you guys just attack him and accuse him of nothing but lies and everything. When in all fact, maybe his story is legit.

Yeah forgeries are a sh*tty part of this hobby and so are all the lies and stuff. But it still doesn't give anyone the right to accuse others of lies and stuff!
Brock - the OP came here with a question and a story, which most of us do not believe. If he did not come here with a story and only a question there would have not been such a long thread. There are so many holes in the story and looking at the ball virtually debunks his story. The ball is a modern day forgery, most here agree with that assessment. I don't think there is anyone who has written on this thread who disagrees with that.
Perhaps you think too much of human nature but many of us on this forum try to look at a story and determine if it is true or false. We just do not take it on face value.
__________________
Sign up & receive my autograph price list. E mail me,richsprt@aol.com, with your e mail. Sports,entertainment,history.
-
Here is a link to my online store. Many items for sale. 10% disc. for 54 members. E mail me first.
www.bonanza.com/booths/richsports
--
"I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure."- Clarence Darrow

Last edited by RichardSimon; 11-17-2014 at 02:30 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-17-2014, 07:11 AM
niembre niembre is offline
member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 95
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnmh71 View Post
Oh I'm sure he had no problem parting with what was probably the best item he had. This story is bullshit. It is as bad as the stories of Ruth signing from his death bed in the hospital.
Again, he had to get the ball from somewhere and he would have no reason to lie about it. He was a 12 year old kid when it was given to him. For all we know, that man who gave him the ball knew it was not real and that is the reason for giving him the ball. Unfortunetly, he passed away in the 80's, so I never got to hear the story directly from him. I've never seen so many quick to judgment people like there are on this board. I guess it's the nature of business you guys are in.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-17-2014, 08:23 AM
Fuddjcal Fuddjcal is offline
Chuck Tapia
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 2,101
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by niembre View Post
Again, he had to get the ball from somewhere and he would have no reason to lie about it. He was a 12 year old kid when it was given to him. For all we know, that man who gave him the ball knew it was not real and that is the reason for giving him the ball. Unfortunetly, he passed away in the 80's, so I never got to hear the story directly from him. I've never seen so many quick to judgment people like there are on this board. I guess it's the nature of business you guys are in.
it's not a business for most here....Forgeries and fish stories are just relentless, day after day, week after week year after year. That's why the quick judgments I think? It's the same BS, just a different day. It has multiplied 10 fold in the past couple of years as you can't tell whose a moron and whose not with-out a scorecard these days.

I for one love the Fish stories! I agree. Don't tell grandma. She'll nag grandpa in his grave and we don't want that....Bad Karma. Good luck
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Babe Ruth Autographed Worlds Fair Baseball Instruction Laurel Card ATP Autographs & Game Used B/S/T 1 10-04-2013 04:16 PM
Thoughts on this Babe Ruth please toyman55 Autograph Forum- Primarily Sports 20 03-18-2013 08:48 AM
Signed Babe Ruth Baseball - & Mickey Cochrane - PSA/DNA Certified - Autographed Baseb awesomebobbo11 Net54baseball Sports (Primarily) Vintage Memorabilia Forum incl. Game Used 6 11-01-2012 12:57 AM
Selling: Babe Ruth Single-Signed Autographed Baseball PSA/DNA & JSA TONY-III Baseball Memorabilia B/S/T 0 01-11-2012 01:35 PM
Babe Ruth autographed baseball for sale or trade Archive Baseball Memorabilia B/S/T 1 10-14-2007 10:50 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:15 AM.


ebay GSB