Black Sox pickups

[Yi]

Some photos I have.

[Shoeless Moe]

I've been watching for 15 years now. I've seen 3 of these, one being this one, the other 2: one in a Chicago Restaurant about 6 years ago I was in and made an offer to the owner who declined. Saw another one after the fact at auction that went for a $1000 unframed (however in better condition then the one I just picked up). Mine came very nicely pre-framed. Just THEE Best Headline/Paper I've ever seen, finally snagged one.

[JoeyFarino]

My paul thompson photo

[murphusa]

ash Wednesday?

[JoeyFarino]

Originally Posted by murphusa

ash Wednesday?

Lol...it mustve been!

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by Shoeless Moe

I've been watching for 15 years now. I've seen 3 of these, one being this one, the other 2: one in a Chicago Restaurant about 6 years ago I was in and made an offer to the owner who declined. Saw another one after the fact at auction that went for a $1000 unframed (however in better condition then the one I just picked up). Mine came very nicely pre-framed. Just THEE Best Headline/Paper I've ever seen, finally snagged one.

All "8 Men out" are shown.

[jonvancouver]

Do those bats ever come up for auction?

[mr2686]

Thomas, you've had one heck of a good year so far on the Black Sox collection. Can't wait to see what's next.

[Kevin]

Thomas - I am sort of a Joe Jenkins fan. Very long story. Does his memorabilia come up at all? I wouldn’t even know where to look.

Great stuff, by the way!

[ThomasL]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Thomas - I am sort of a Joe Jenkins fan. Very long story. Does his memorabilia come up at all? I wouldn’t even know where to look.

Great stuff, by the way!

I have never seen a signature of his for sale outside one being in the Jack Smalling collection...I think Kevin Keating had one once upon a time maybe as well. That info card with his hand written note is closest I have ever come. He has baseball cards (zeenuts) and type 1 photos that come up for auction every so often.

I get the impression he would have been a fun guy to hang around, I read an interview he gave later in life where he basically said he was very happy being the 3rd string catcher. He also wrote letters to Comiskey from over seas while he served in WW1 that were printed in the papers that are a fun read.

[TUM301]

One of my favorite collecting niches, 1919 Black Sox. There`s always great items being added to this thread, the latest continuing that trend. Always on the lookout for "affordable" B Sox related pieces and this one fit the bill. Not sure if it was here or read somewhere else but, supposedly soon after Chick Gandil was acquired by the White Sox he had these clothing items charged to Charles Comisky. Of course Comisky had never heard of the arrangement and kept this in his scrapbook to apparently recoup payment from Chick. Now that must have been an interesting conversation.
Untitled by Hugh Murphy, on Flickr

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by ThomasL

I have never seen a signature of his for sale outside one being in the Jack Smalling collection...I think Kevin Keating had one once upon a time maybe as well. That info card with his hand written note is closest I have ever come. He has baseball cards (zeenuts) and type 1 photos that come up for auction every so often.

I get the impression he would have been a fun guy to hang around, I read an interview he gave later in life where he basically said he was very happy being the 3rd string catcher. He also wrote letters to Comiskey from over seas while he served in WW1 that were printed in the papers that are a fun read.

His brother - William - made it big in Mexico. Some crazy backstory, too. As for my fascination with Joe:

Mid to late 80s, my friend Billy and I were trying to round out the 1919 White Sox on Micro League Baseball. We had to field 25 players and spent an afternoon pouring over the baseball encyclopedia for any player that had at bats for the team. We stumbled upon Joe Jenkins. I believe his birthday was in October and my buddy, Billy, was born in October. He passed away in late June. School let out in late June. Joe Jenkins became a hero for us.

To see if someone was telling the truth, we’d say: “Swear on Joe Jenkins!” and the other, if they were being completely honest, would reply “I swear on Joe Jenkins”. There was a penalty if that oath was ever broken.

I still see Billy from time to time and Joe’s name still gets bandied about.

The little I’ve read on him does indeed make him seem like an interesting character. I got to check out those baseball cards...

[mr2686]

Originally Posted by Yi

Some photos I have.

I was going back over this tread and I saw the press verbiage on the back of Gandil's photo mentioning the 1917 fix involving the White Sox and the Tigers. Interesting that obviously the 1919 team were not just pissed off about not getting a bonus, but probably were also prone to fixing games. The attached link is about the 1917 scandal, and what also is interesting is they mention Detroit pitcher Bill James. The same Bill James that made it on to the 1919 White Sox late in the season and did pitch 4.2 innings in the series giving up 8 hits annd 4 runs. Now maybe he was just washed up, or maybe...just maybe there were more than 8 men out. LOL
https://www.vintagedetroit.com/blog/...n-the-pennant/

[ThomasL]

I always thought Bill James and Byrd Lynn probably knew about the fix before the series started...James based on his involvement in the 1917 "fix" stuff and Lynn bc he was TIGHT with Jackson (WS roomate) and Lefty Williams...also both James and Lynn were West Coast PCL players...as were a vast majority of banned players (Gandil, Gedeon, Risberg, Williams, Chase, McMullin, Weaver)

[ss]

Continuing this thread. I noticed the current Written Word auction has a Buck Weaver signature (signature attached). It does not look quite right to me, but am wondering if there are any other opinions.

[Shoeless Moe]

Originally Posted by ss

Continuing this thread. I noticed the current Written Word auction has a Buck Weaver signature (signature attached). It does not look quite right to me, but am wondering if there are any other opinions.

Pretty sure that's the 2nd time this one has been up for sale this year. Guessing it didn't sell the first time. I'm not an expert on sigs., but I too
checked it out a few months back and compared to his other sigs and this one just does not look like his others.

Also, a pretty common name, so worried its just another George Weaver.

Last, I think that Written Word has a few bad reviews if you do a search.

So just too many red flags.

[mr2686]

It could be an early sig. Threre are a couple of tells that occur in later sigs too but also some that are very different. With that said, I avoid anything these days if my conclusion is it "could be". I know it's a hard one to find, but tread carefully. Good luck.

[ThomasL]

Bought a lot of 1919 Sox Heilbroner Info Cards which included a signed Dick Kerr but really was after this one. I feel ths "This is correct" is in Jenkins hand, but the pencil "Joseph" probably isnt. Anyone out there have a Joe jenkins autograph? This is the closest I have come

[ThomasL]

I dont know if we are suppose to post cards in this topic/thread or not...Im just realizing that...but I picked up a 1912 Zeenut Home Run Kisses Win Noyes which completes his 4 card checklist for me (I think)
1911 Zeenut, 1912 Zeenut, 1912 Home Run Kisses, 1916 Zeenut

[jgmp123]

A couple nice framed pieces that I enjoy....

[JimmyArcher]

Here's a piece that is a little bit off the beaten path from most of my Black Sox collection.

Its a piece of sheet music picturing the vaudeville act, the 4 Cook Sisters. Helen Cook, of the group, would go on to become Buck Weaver's wife.