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Old 05-25-2015, 11:56 AM
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I know we've had a million of these threads before, so I apologize, but this one is incredible:
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Old 05-25-2015, 11:57 AM
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And here's my 1.5 for comparison
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Old 05-25-2015, 12:01 PM
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That does look a little rough for a 4. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see it listed on ebay with "nice card for the grade" in the description.
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Could be marketed as an inexpensive way to up your registry set.
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It's the very rare "It's snowing in summer" variation.

Expertise worth paying for.
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you should see the N162 6's and 7's with nearly the same amount of loss in Heritage's last big auction. Makes me crazier than I already am.
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I know we've had a million of these threads before, so I apologize, but this one is incredible:
How the hell is that a 4 ? Again PSA 4 at their best.
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That is one of the roughest 4's I've seen. Also what makes some of the PSA cases look like that?
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Another good one I just found
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...what makes some of the PSA cases look like that?

It's a mylar insert.
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Griffith looks like it has a pinhole above his head?
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Are you sure the psa holder has not been cracked open and card replaced? Bottom of case looks frosted due to being opened.
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It is possible that the specks flaked off after it was graded, due to being poorly stored.
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That does look a little rough for a 4. Although I wouldn't be surprised to see it listed on ebay with "nice card for the grade" in the description.
also a 'can get re-graded a half point higher' nice color as well....
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It looks like the serial numbers on both PSA examples shown are very low numbers. So, the cards were graded very early in PSA's existence, and they likely were more lenient with grading. If the cards were resubmitted now, they probably come back as 2's.
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It looks like the serial numbers on both PSA examples shown are very low numbers. So, the cards were graded very early in PSA's existence, and they likely were more lenient with grading. If the cards were resubmitted now, they probably come back as 2's.
funny there are many ebay listings where the seller states the cards are undergraded because they were very old grades and PSA was more stringent in the beginning and suggest you can get the card re-graded higher possibly..
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stating they were stricter in the beginning is a flat out lie. Both services have many early graded cards that do not fall within their current standards. Many "Merkle" graded SGC cards are no where near the quality they are assigned and would not cross to current SGC standards. PSA is very inconsistent on T206 grading, even more so on the early grades. And even more so on T cards graded 1-4.
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stating they were stricter in the beginning is a flat out lie. Both services have many early graded cards that do not fall within their current standards. Many "Merkle" graded SGC cards are no where near the quality they are assigned and would not cross to current SGC standards. PSA is very inconsistent on T206 grading, even more so on the early grades. And even more so on T cards graded 1-4.
I agree. The card in the original post looks like a 2 to me. Except for the registry guys the mantra is always the same, buy the card, not the holder. Don't buy graded cards blindly unless you are only buying a number to get ahead in a game. IF you are playing the number game, then who cares, buy the highest grade you can and win, win, win!!
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This flip was issued recently or within the last 6 years. Im not sure the flip and card go together as I believe the case has been cracked and card switched. Why would someone do that for such a low dollar card? Not sure but people steal grapes everyday.
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That Griffith card sold Sept 3, 2008. Same card, same PSA identifier.

If broken out and replaced, had to have been long ago.....
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I think PSA just missed this one. As everyone here knows, they have been known to do so.

Here's one of mine that they graded in 2009:


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I think PSA just missed this one. As everyone here knows, they have been known to do so.

Here's one of mine that they graded in 2009:


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I love the .5 next to that 3, it feels so deliberate. I like to think that there was an argument over whether it deserved to be a 3 or a 4 that just couldn't be resolved.
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How about this $26K Anson and the $5K Beecher?

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