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Old 03-12-2017, 11:21 AM
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Well, I cracked some cards from various holders and submitted the cards "raw" to PSA and asked them to be graded with NO Qualifiers. I collect hockey cards so the results will likely vary to other sports. Generally speaking I'm pretty happy with the results but, there are definitely some discrepancies..without a doubt KSA cards are risky...Here are the results..

Cards submitted..1965 Topps Hockey

Toe Blake was Beckett 7 now PSA 8
Gump Worsley was SGC 7 now PSA 7
Jean Beliveau was KSA 8 now PSA 5
Billy Harris was "raw" now PSA 6.5
Glenn Hall was "raw" now PSA 5
Al MacNeil was Beckett 7 now PSA 6
Stan Mikita was SGC 8 now PSA 8
Ken Wharram was "raw" now PSA 8 (looked like a 9 to me)
Terry Harper was Becket 7 now PSA 5
Tim Horton was KSA 8 now PSA 7
Frank Mahovlich was Becket 7 now PSA 6
Phil Goyette was KSA 7 now PSA 6
Elmer vasko was "raw" now PSA 7
Phil Esposito was "raw" now PSA 4.5 (Card had great colour and centring, was looking for a grade between 5 or 6)

Last but not least #121 Checklist (unmarked and slightly off centre) was KSA 8 now PSA 5

The results speak for themselves, cracking out cards carries some risk, but finding a good "raw" card is likely the best route to go..KSA graded cards are definitely not worth "cracking out of their holders"..Do so at your own peril.
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Old 03-12-2017, 12:22 PM
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Interesting.
Thank you for posting this.
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I think the fact that none of the KSA cards came back as altered is something of a good sign though. I certainly wouldn't trust that you could duplicate that with a similar number of GAI graded cards.
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I think the fact that none of the KSA cards came back as altered is something of a good sign though. I certainly wouldn't trust that you could duplicate that with a similar number of GAI graded cards.


Agreed, I bought a ksa gretzky 8.5 rc in a whim, hoping it was not trimmed.


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I think the fact that none of the KSA cards came back as altered is something of a good sign though. I certainly wouldn't trust that you could duplicate that with a similar number of GAI graded cards.
I cracked and crossed 20 GAI cards. All received numerical grades.
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Grading by any company is a crapshoot at best ....

I bought 13 raw and trimmed cards at a National one time and 12 came back with numerical grades. It happens.

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Grading by any company is a crapshoot at best ....

I bought 13 raw and trimmed cards at a National one time and 12 came back with numerical grades. It happens.
This only happens to other people...
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What's KSA? Never heard of them or have ever seen one....
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Canadian company with a decent reputation. they exist mainly because of the crazy expense of sending expensive packages across national borders.
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I won one of those "grab bag" sort of lots in an REA auction a few years back. It included a bunch of trimmed T207s, so I didn't even price them into my bid. I sent them in and got back 5s and 6s. Crazy...
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