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Old 09-12-2017, 11:12 PM
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Hope they at least get to 21 and set a new AL record. They are poised to finally get that elusive world series ring!
Wouldn't 21 actually tie MLB record for longest WINNING streak?

The 1916 Giants went undefeated in 26 straight but had a game end in a tie after win 12 & before win 13.

The actual longest Winning streak (with no ties) belongs to the 1935 Cubs who won 21 in row and then went on to lose the World Series to the Detroit Tigers.

The 1916 Giants who went undefeated for 26 straight games still finished in 4th place. Ouch


The 2002 A's who won 20 straight lost the AL Divisional Series to the Twins.

Maybe winning all these games in a row is not a good sign for the Tribe!
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Old 09-13-2017, 06:53 AM
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Wouldn't 21 actually tie MLB record for longest WINNING streak?

The 1916 Giants went undefeated in 26 straight but had a game end in a tie after win 12 & before win 13.

The actual longest Winning streak (with no ties) belongs to the 1935 Cubs who won 21 in row and then went on to lose the World Series to the Detroit Tigers.

The 1916 Giants who went undefeated for 26 straight games still finished in 4th place. Ouch


The 2002 A's who won 20 straight lost the AL Divisional Series to the Twins.

Maybe winning all these games in a row is not a good sign for the Tribe!
This is a hot button topic right now in Cleveland. We're all trying to figure out exactly what the record is and how that "tie" was scored in the books.

According to Baseball Reference, the game was tied in the 9th when they had to end the game due to rain. They came back the next day and re-played that game in its entirety, then played another game that day. They won both.

On Baseball Reference, they have that rain-cancelled game marked with a T for Tie, but it is not reflected as a tie in their overall record.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/t...e-scores.shtml

Regardless, I would like to get to 21 and then 22 to knock the Cubs off the record books for at worst the second longest winning streak in MLB history. I think I count the 26 wins in a row and hold that as the record, but it's interesting.
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I feel especially good for Jay Bruce, who struggled for years on a dysfunctional Mets team and now has a real shot at a World Series. He was interviewed after the game and he feels really fortunate to have been traded to such an amazing team. Good for him!
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I feel especially good for Jay Bruce, who struggled for years on a dysfunctional Mets team and now has a real shot at a World Series. He was interviewed after the game and he feels really fortunate to have been traded to such an amazing team. Good for him!
I feel the same for Edwin Encarnacion. I know he likely regretted leaving the Jays so I am glad he is on another contender and has a real good chance of going to, and possibly winning the World Series.
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I feel especially good for Jay Bruce, who struggled for years on a dysfunctional Mets team and now has a real shot at a World Series. He was interviewed after the game and he feels really fortunate to have been traded to such an amazing team. Good for him!
When we traded for Bruce in early August (August 9th I believe), a lot of the talk in Cleveland was that he was a rental. Carlos Santana is a free agent after this season, and the original thought was that we couldn't keep them both. Now, it's looking like we have a good shot at keeping both. Bruce loves the Midwest, blue collar area/team, and I think he likes contending, too. Santana has openly said he doesn't want to leave Cleveland, and might be open to a hometown discount.

The other aspect people like to discount is if the Indians go on another deep postseason run, that's tens of millions in extra revenue. I think we made ~$60M last year in the postseason, which literally paid for Edwin Encarnacion. His contract is also incentive based with some statistical incentives but it's largely attendance based. If the Indians hit certain milestones in attendance, he bonuses. Very creative contract. Our attendance is way up this year - an average of $5k+ each game - and should only continue to climb.

I, by the way, will be at the game tomorrow night. Going for 22 which, depending upon whom you ask, is the MLB record for consecutive wins. Roll Tribe baby! Keep the Chief and Go Indians!
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When we traded for Bruce in early August (August 9th I believe), a lot of the talk in Cleveland was that he was a rental. Carlos Santana is a free agent after this season, and the original thought was that we couldn't keep them both. Now, it's looking like we have a good shot at keeping both. Bruce loves the Midwest, blue collar area/team, and I think he likes contending, too. Santana has openly said he doesn't want to leave Cleveland, and might be open to a hometown discount.

The other aspect people like to discount is if the Indians go on another deep postseason run, that's tens of millions in extra revenue. I think we made ~$60M last year in the postseason, which literally paid for Edwin Encarnacion. His contract is also incentive based with some statistical incentives but it's largely attendance based. If the Indians hit certain milestones in attendance, he bonuses. Very creative contract. Our attendance is way up this year - an average of $5k+ each game - and should only continue to climb.

I, by the way, will be at the game tomorrow night. Going for 22 which, depending upon whom you ask, is the MLB record for consecutive wins. Roll Tribe baby! Keep the Chief and Go Indians!
Bruce played many years with Cincinnati so I assume he feels at home back in Ohio. And although I don't know his stats, it seems like he is in a groove and making a big contribution. He's the perfect fit.

With regard to the record for longest winning streak, I believe 21 straight is now the mark. Years back it was the 26 straight by the Giants, but they now consider that tie game a deal breaker. So if they win today, that's the new record.
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Bruce played many years with Cincinnati so I assume he feels at home back in Ohio. And although I don't know his stats, it seems like he is in a groove and making a big contribution. He's the perfect fit.

With regard to the record for longest winning streak, I believe 21 straight is now the mark. Years back it was the 26 straight by the Giants, but they now consider that tie game a deal breaker. So if they win today, that's the new record.
I've been flipping back and forth on this, and I've come to a conclusion. If the stats count for the game that ended in a "tie", then the game counts regardless of its reflection in the overall season record. From what I've heard, people believe the stats count, so I say the MLB record is 21 straight by the '35 Cubs. Hopefully after tonight, it's 22 and counting by the 2017 Indians!
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