1952 Topps complete set

[GasHouseGang]

Probably. But no scarier than those guys that know every factory/brand/front combination for T206!

[cammb]

I have 95% SGC graded and #1 on the SGC Registry. I collect sgc 60 and up.
I dont collect the variation but am interested in the 2 Mantles. What is the variation?

[ALR-bishop]

On the back of the two Mantles, Thompson and Robinson, the high number double prints the stitching on the baseball on the back runs right or left. On the Mantle front the e in the auto is full or cut off and the top star line is straight or wavy

[Bestdj777]

There is also a variation with the square box on the front. One is missing the bottom black line, one isn't. Thats the way I distinguish the two.

[ALR-bishop]

You can see the two side by side on page 2 in this thread

[Republicaninmass]

Interesting card I picked up. Looks like the yellow smeared over the card

[ALR-bishop]

Mustard stain ? :-)

Another interesting print oddity

[wolfdogg]

Just recently sold my set (407 all red backs + 55 of the Low # black backs + The Page/Sain variations + the #307 Frank Campos Black Star; Frank House Tiger variations, Boone background variations and the Woodling and Schieb "gap in border" cards)

My High numbers were from Poor-Ex or so......not sure how long it took to get that far

Last card was #325 Serena

[campyfan39]

If anyone has doubles in decent shape (VG to EX) of the base set (dont care about variations) I am interested.

[flkersn]

I posting this list of variations months ago, I failed to give credit to Mr. Thomas Killeen, who has conducted years of research on 1952 Topps and helped discover some of these variations. He is, perhaps, best known for his discovery of the yellow logo Frank House.

Originally Posted by flkersn

Here is what I have (although some of these "variations" may be failing eyesight!). These are variations NOT recognised by PSA

10 Rosen Black has pink by hat
26 Irvin Black has dark brown and light tan background on front
30 Parnell Black has red line on hat brim
42 Kretlow Black has yellow and peach backgrounds
43 Scarborough Red has Peach and light Peach background (Eyesight??)
43 Scarborough Black has yellow and peach background
54 Kiely Black orange and beige background
55 Boone Black dark olive and light green background
55 Boone Red dark olive and light olive background
80 Wehmeier Black red-yellow and red-orange background
88 Feller clear slats and hazy background
99 Woodling frame break lower left
116 Scheib frame break lower left
121 Niarhos pink dot by ear
146 House Cream yellow logo and many variations in between
162 Crandall Cream orange and red background
181 Swift Cream split PP in TOPPS on back
225 Baumholtz tan and light brown background (eyesight?)
276 Wilson frame break lower right
295 Cavaretta yellow spot in background
307 Campos partial black star
307 Campos frame break upper left
307 frame break upper left, partial black star
311 Mantle arrows left and right
312 Robinson arrows left and right
313 Thomson arrows left and right
314 Campanella missing "R" in "MAJOR" on back

That's it, with one exception. I believe that the gray back seriws 131-190 has a version that has a white border on the front. I cannot explain it, but i has several examples and I do not believe it is a matter of aging or uneven discoloration of the card stock. But what do I know?

I welcome hearing about any other variations.

Bill

[ALR-bishop]

I mentioned this in the other thread, I think all these and maybe a couple more are reflected in the H&S check list for the Super 52 set it recently sold. I think there is still a link to that checklist in the 52 Loes thread now in this forum

[tombocombo]

Bill Fulkerson, thank you so much as you have been instrumental and supportive of me throughout the process of the1952 topps discoveries and research.

[hangman62]

I took on the 52T set a few yrs ago...then chickened out and ignored the high#s. Just felt it would have been a lifetime quest.

It was still a challenge..even in beat up shape....finished it...looked at it... decided I wasnt really "in love" with it....sold it to another collector and moved on to something else

RalphG

[baseballfan]

i'm trying it. i'm down to 47 cards for the lows and have nothing but time to finish the hi's. if anyone has any in decent vg-vg+ shape with no real miscuts i would be interested. i also have some to trade. its a great set to collect. i'm not looking for red or black backs just what comes a long.

good luck all

anyway here is my list

1952 topps low 47 cards

1 pafko-2 runnells-4 LENHARDT-8 MARSH-10 ROSEN-15 PESKY-20 LOES -30 PARNELL-31 zernial-36 hodges-47 JONES-49 sain-59 roberts-77 KENNEDY -88 feller-122JENSEN -129 mize-151 POST-175 martin-187 MILLER -191 berra-195 minoso-200 houk-215 bauer-216 ashburn-250 erskine-261 mayes-262 trucks-270 BRISSIE-273 PALICA -274 branca-278 CLARK-279 STEWART-280 CLOYD BOYER-281 SP BROWN-282 SP TEBBETTS-285 SP FANNIN -286 SP DeMAESTRI-290 SP ASTROTH-296 SP rolfe-297 SP SEMINICK-298 SP ROSS -299 SP MURRAY -306 SLEATER -311 mantle

Graded to be replaced
41-76-132-133-142-218-252-255-264

[autograf]

I started the set last year low number only 1-310. I'm sitting at 288/310 and decided to also do red/black backs on 1-80 after getting Pafko in both. I have 50/80 on the red and 65/80 on the black with just 4 numbers not represented. I've picked up some good large lots along the way from a couple places and made pretty good money selling my dupes off. I still need the Mays of course and Berra but it's a really nice even VGEX to EX set so far. Along the way, I've picked up (6) of the high numbers in similar condition. They're a bear to get. I have like 29 dupes that I'll list in the BST section tonite or tomorrow for those wanting some singles...........

[JoeyF1981]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I do not have my set scanned. Here are a couple of pieces. On CU a group of folks did a joint set where we posted all the cards in order

Hey AL awesome cards. Do you ever get tempted to open that pack? do you think you ever will someday?

[ALR-bishop]

It is part of a full set and pack run, so no. Plus since I have the set, and upgrading a card or two is not a temptation. Besides, whatever is in there is likely worth less than the unopened pack. The mystery is usually better than the reality

[extremeboy]

How much is a 52 Topps pack worth in PSA 5 and up or GAI 8? I am over 90% complete with the set and I have been looking for a pack to place in my collection. The buy it now price on Ebay is crazy.

[ALR-bishop]

Got the one I have several years ago when a bunch of them from a box went up for sale. Prices dropped for awhile but have risen again. I have not followed them specifically recently

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by autograf

I started the set last year low number only 1-310. I'm sitting at 288/310 and decided to also do red/black backs on 1-80 after getting Pafko in both. I have 50/80 on the red and 65/80 on the black with just 4 numbers not represented. I've picked up some good large lots along the way from a couple places and made pretty good money selling my dupes off...........

Tom,

That is making pretty good progress. Good job.

I also started by buying lots - but held on to my duplicates. I have the first 310 as well as most of the Hi Numbers. I am missing approx. 17 Hi numbered cards for a complete set. Most of my hi numbered cards are EX+ to NM - which was not easy to find on a consistent basis.

I have some variations and only 3 perhaps 4 of the mid series gray backs (misplaced 1 card and can't seem to locate it). I will consider my set complete when I have finished the last of the hi numbered cards. I will continue to work on the variations though.

Z Wheat

[darrend505]

It is beautiful set, but one I will probably not complete anytime soon due to $$$. However I am working on a mid grade 1953 Topps set, and I am missing only 17 cards to have it complete!

[mattsedate]

Originally Posted by robsbessette

Does anyone on here actually have a complete set? If so, are the high numbers just complete beaters? Or actually decent? How long did it take you to complete the set? How much money or cards in trade did it cost you? What was the hardest card to obtain? Is it a set you'll hold onto forever? Or do you think you'll eventually sell it?

Just playing 20 questions here since I'm pretty sure I'll never even try to complete the set, but it's always left me fascinated.

If there are any scans of some nice cards out there, I wouldn't be against seeing them either!

Thanks guys!!!

A complete set would be crazy.