SGC is now authenticating autographs

[Sean1125]

Originally Posted by HOFAUTOS

I only get items I want to sell authenticated, and most collectors have never heard of Jim, Travis, Richard, or Chris, therefore they want the item to have a PSA/DNA or JSA certificate. I don't like it but that's the way things are. The first thing they ask us who is the cert from? Without even examining the autograph! It sucks that its this way but it is what it is.

Side note - I love the SGC holder and wouldn't mind getting some of my signed cards slabbed. That's why I wanted to know how much it is.

I would much rather give anyone on your list my business but when I go to sell at a show I show the cert or mention a name and they say "Oh so it's not PSA?"... So frustrating...

[Duluth Eskimo]

I find it ironic that someone who owns a large auction / consignment business is "introducing" a service for SGC without providing any details regarding questions about primary authenticators working for SGC. I do not necessarily agree that PSA and JSA and potentially others do not have a purpose in the hobby as others routinely mention, but others are right on point with specific questions. If you plan on "mentioning" a service like this that is not public yet or listed on the SGC website (if others are correct) you should come clean with your knowledge or let others know where they can get their questions answered. This seems a little too convenient.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo

I find it ironic that someone who owns a large auction / consignment business is "introducing" a service for SGC without providing any details regarding questions about primary authenticators working for SGC. I do not necessarily agree that PSA and JSA and potentially others do not have a purpose in the hobby as others routinely mention, but others are right on point with specific questions. If you plan on "mentioning" a service like this that is not public yet or listed on the SGC website (if others are correct) you should come clean with your knowledge or let others know where they can get their questions answered. This seems a little too convenient.

yes, and he conveniently glosses over other threads about shillings in his auctions etc. sgc has always been pretty upfront, i think they will have to let us know who the authenticator(s) is/are when they get this rolling. i'm thinking there has to be at least 2-3 experts as a modern players' sigs and signing habits are totally different than older players.

let's see, richard hasn't responded in this thread and he's only a state over from sgc so maybe they scooped him up?

[otismalibu]

No mention of this on their site...yet.

http://www.sgccard.com/boards/ubbthreads.php

FWIW, there was a $11 special that ran about this time last year. The thread is in the Auto section.

[mschwade]

From what I've been told, Michael Root (former JSA authenticator and director) will be doing the authentications. Rumor has it, they originally tried to recruit one of our valuable forum members.

[JimStinson]

Originally Posted by mschwade

From what I've been told, Michael Root (former JSA authenticator and director) will be doing the authentications. Rumor has it, they originally tried to recruit one of our valuable forum members.

I am sure they will be ALL household names in the autograph business , the "rumor" is correct BUT since all of the name brands in the autograph business do not come cheap ...Mostly because they already have lucrative established businesses you will get the "experts" that need the dough ,
You get what you pay for. Slabbing has become the new "legos" for adults
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[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by JimStinson

I am sure they will be ALL household names in the autograph business , the "rumor" is correct BUT since all of the name brands in the autograph business do not come cheap ...Mostly because they already have lucrative established businesses you will get the "experts" that need the dough ,
You get what you pay for. Slabbing has become the new "legos" for adults
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Jim Stinson...NOT a cheap date!

[JimStinson]

Like an old whore in a bar--I'll buy her a drink but I won't go upstairs with her”
Ernest Hemingway

[probstein123]

any details regarding questions about primary authenticators working for SGC
==> I was told today that mike root is the director of authentication for SGC and that he was the former director of authentication at JSA...also, they have a large pool of consultants lined up helping , I don't know any of those names at this time , but I'm confident SGC will make them available once they update their website and launch and official press release.....

[shelly]

Just what the hobby needs more experts.

[drc]

I don't know about this or that expert, but do know SGC is a reputable company that is concerned and careful about accurate identification in other areas.

[HOFAUTOS]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

I would much rather give anyone on your list my business but when I go to sell at a show I show the cert or mention a name and they say "Oh so it's not PSA?"... So frustrating...

Yup same here. I've actually purchased from Jim on ebay and man did I get my items fast

But since most regular collectors only know of the big two authentication companies, they won't buy the item unless it has the certificate. Go on any other website in the hobby and post an autograph for sale. The first thing they ask is who is the cert from. They don't even care about the autograph itself.

[JimStinson]

Best Option in this hobby today.. put a 25 year old kid behind a curtain pay him slightly above minimum wage and call him an expert. The sheep will flock in droves. What a country ! what a hobby ! lol
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[travrosty]

Originally Posted by Sean1125

I would much rather give anyone on your list my business but when I go to sell at a show I show the cert or mention a name and they say "Oh so it's not PSA?"... So frustrating...

you have to educate them. tell them, "well let me introduce you to" ...

get a resume and reference sheet from those people and hand it out at the shows when they ask who they are.

counter with "who is psa"? "who is jsa?" which individual authenticated the psa or jsa item you are interested in. if they can't tell you, explain it to them, ask them "why do you trust the name psa or jsa when you do know who looked at it? hand out sheets with some of very bad mistakes they have made, and ask those people if they feel comfortable with those authentications.

[drc]

My guess is that when and if SGC starts authenticating autographs officially, they will say who are their authenticators. Until then, some of us are arguing about an event before it has (or hasn't) happened.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by travrosty

hand out sheets with some of very bad mistakes they have made, and ask those people if they feel comfortable with those authentications.

I'm surprised that you haven't created such 'sheets', in pdf format so that you can more easily advertise your personal disdain for these companies. If it's all true, I don't see what your concern might be, and now that you are recommending that others do it, I REALLY can't see what your concern would be.

SOGOTP

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by Runscott

I'm surprised that you haven't created such 'sheets', in pdf format so that you can more easily advertise your personal disdain for these companies. If it's all true, I don't see what your concern might be, and now that you are recommending that others do it, I REALLY can't see what your concern would be.

SOGOTP