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[tothrk]

My car gets a "bath" on a regular basis. That doesn't make it FAKE.

[sayhey24]

Originally Posted by rarerookies

Ok. So if you soak the card to enhance the appeal of the card doesn't sanding, re backing, trimming help enhance the card too?

So if soaking's ok then whats wrong with trimming or rebacking as long as the reback is an original card? Don't those enhance the appeal of the card too?

The word card doctors come to mind.

Card doctors is actually two words, not one.

The poster also needs to learn the difference between there and their, and slander and libel.

Greg

[rarerookies]

So basically you really have nothing of any substance to say about the topic besides grammar issues?

Originally Posted by sayhey24

Card doctors is actually two words, not one.

The poster also needs to learn the difference between there and their, and slander and libel.

Greg

[rarerookies]

It doesn't make it a fake but it does alter the appearance of the card

Originally Posted by tothrk

My car gets a "bath" on a regular basis. That doesn't make it FAKE.

[rarerookies]

No one has given me a reason not to believe my argument and as long as you guys keep posting on this thread I'll keep responding.

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Derek- do you actually believe your argument, or are you just giving everybody a hard time?

[rarerookies]

That makes no sense. You can legally own a reprint.

Originally Posted by J.McMurry

This reminds me of a guy I knew years ago who started selling computer cards for satelite dishes which enabled you to recieve pay channels at no monthly cost. I asked him about the legality of it and he said ,"it's legal for me to sell them,but it's illegal for people to use them".

[teetwoohsix]

ok Derek, you are right and everyone is wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLzJ3tGLWxA

[FUBAR]

The difference, obvious to everyone except you, is that you are "aging" the cards to deceive, not enhance. Putting lipstick on the pig so to speak!

If you use a little water to get rid of some dirt, you are not deceiving anyone.

If you wish to sell this crap, this is probably the wrong place to do it. I would suggest places like Blowout cards, who's card buying members might not have the same upstanding morals as the members of this site do!

You are not going to find any sympathy or customers here!

Sorry if i am being rude, and i am sure I am not alone in this statement...

IF YOUR ONLY PURPOSE HERE IS TO SELL REPRINTS ..... GO AWAY!! (i apologize in advance Leon)

[Vol]

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[asphaltman]

I don't read stupid threads often. But when I do, I prefer to read about artificially aged reprints that will be sold at a later date on eBay to a clueless collector.

Stay thirsty my friends.

[53Browns]

Yeah, please peddle your junk elsewhere. This site is for collectors of authentic material.

[J.McMurry]

RR- I was just reminded of that because,..

If you're selling reprints,that is perfectly legal.

But if your selling reprints that have been "enhanced" to look real,then it's obvious that your target market will be mainly crooks who will try to resell the cards as real,which is Illegal.

I admit it's not a apples to apples comparison,but I said I was reminded of it,not that it was the same.

[Wite3]

I tried to educate...he is a troll.

You want a better comparison...

You take a known fake purse and remove the tags and add gucci symbol. You say you are just enhancing something to make it affordable to someone who can't own the real thing. You want it to look authentic. It is still a fake though and can still then be used for a fraudulent transaction.

OR...you take a real gucci bag, clean off the dirt and sew up the rip. It is still a real gucci bag and still retains its value as such.

Do you get it now?

[E93]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Sort of how the left used to throw around the word "Nazi." I guess that stopped once Bush left office.

Wow. I didn't realize it was the left painting Hitler mustaches on Obama images during health care debates. Thanks for enlightening us.

[rarerookies]

I haven't posted anything else for sale on this site since I found out you guys weren't interested.

Originally Posted by 53Browns

Yeah, please peddle your junk elsewhere. This site is for collectors of authentic material.

[rarerookies]

I understand what you are saying but you are bashing me for something someone else might do. And not what I am doing. Just like if someone goes out and buys sudafed and makes meth out of it or someone buys a gun and murders someone.

Do you blame the gun or the drug manufacturer or do you blame the person who buys it?

Originally Posted by Wite3

I tried to educate...he is a troll.

You want a better comparison...

You take a known fake purse and remove the tags and add gucci symbol. You say you are just enhancing something to make it affordable to someone who can't own the real thing. You want it to look authentic. It is still a fake though and can still then be used for a fraudulent transaction.

OR...you take a real gucci bag, clean off the dirt and sew up the rip. It is still a real gucci bag and still retains its value as such.

Do you get it now?

[E93]

Yawn. I have not followed this thread, but of the little I have skimmed through this morning, I have one request: Leon, please shut this down.
JimB

[uffda51]

+1. This guy is free to start a forum for collectors of artficially aged reprinted cards. Or used dental floss. He has worn out his welcome here.

[tiger8mush]

Originally Posted by rarerookies

I understand what you are saying but you are bashing me for something someone else might do. And not what I am doing. Just like if someone goes out and buys sudafed and makes meth out of it or someone buys a gun and murders someone.

Do you blame the gun or the drug manufacturer or do you blame the person who buys it?

Turning sudafed into meth requires work. Buying a gun requires some process (background checks / certification /etc). Buying a $5 reprint from you that has been made to look like the original and had the word "reprint" removed is MUCH easier.

What you are actually doing (using your analogy) is taking sudafed (a reprint with "reprint" on it) and turning it into what looks and tastes like meth, but selling it as sudafed. Obviously, someone down the line will try to pass it off as the real thing, which its not.

[rarerookies]

So are you saying that I am just as guilty for selling reprints as the end user is for selling them at original?

Originally Posted by tiger8mush

Turning sudafed into meth requires work. Buying a gun requires some process (background checks / certification /etc). Buying a $5 reprint from you that has been made to look like the original and had the word "reprint" removed is MUCH easier.

What you are actually doing (using your analogy) is taking sudafed (a reprint with "reprint" on it) and turning it into what looks and tastes like meth, but selling it as sudafed. Obviously, someone down the line will try to pass it off as the real thing, which its not.

[ChiefBenderForever]

Originally Posted by rarerookies

So are you saying that I am just as guilty for selling reprints as the end user is for selling them at original?

No not at all, I believe the correct term would be 'enabler'

[rarerookies]

Ok, that's fair. I will accept that title.

Originally Posted by JohnnyHarmonica

No not at all, I believe the correct term would be 'enabler'

[Kawika]

Here's an artificially aged card that has been altered by Nazis. Can we put this thread out of its misery now?

[richieb315]

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[calvindog]

Originally Posted by E93

Wow. I didn't realize it was the left painting Hitler mustaches on Obama images during health care debates. Thanks for enlightening us.

Yeah, the lefties never called Bush Hitler or anything like that. They were too busy smoking dope, collecting their allowances and buying baseball cards.

[Rob D.]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Yeah, the lefties never called Bush Hitler or anything like that. They were too busy smoking dope, collecting their allowances and buying baseball cards.

Darn. Thread didn't get locked in time. Double darn.

[Tsaiko]

This thread has really got me thinking.

What would be the best way to artificially age a recreation of Hitler's used dental floss?

It would make a great stocking stuffer for that special nazi on your Christmas list.


Really, this thread lives??

[rarerookies]

Hitler had false teeth. Seriously get your history right before it makes you look ignorant again, sir.

Originally Posted by Tsaiko

This thread has really got me thinking.

What would be the best way to artificially age a recreation of Hitler's used dental floss?

It would make a great stocking stuffer for that special nazi on your Christmas list.


Really, this thread lives??

[rarerookies]

Originally Posted by richieb315

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[asphaltman]

Why do we park on driveways and drive on parkways?

[Jim VB]

We have reached this point.

[Tsaiko]

Originally Posted by rarerookies

Hitler had false teeth. Seriously get your history right before it makes you look ignorant again, sir.

Teeth? You quoted me, but no where in my sarcastic post did I mention teeth.

If you ever get a chance to study history, instead of simply typing the word, look into the many uses for floss during WWII.

Now, if you're looking for someone appropriate to call names, I suggest you find a mirror.

[rarerookies]

A quote from you. "What would be the best way to artificially age a recreation of Hitler's used dental floss?"

Enlighten me, what else would have Hitler uses dental floss for?

Originally Posted by Tsaiko

Teeth? You quoted me, but no where in my sarcastic post did I mention teeth.

If you ever get a chance to study history, instead of simply typing the word, look into the many uses for floss during WWII.

Now, if you're looking for someone appropriate to call names, I suggest you find a mirror.

[FUBAR]

Rarerookies.. i got you a Christmas present

http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friend...1707774&sr=8-1

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by asphaltman

Why do we park on driveways and drive on parkways?

why are asteriods in the sky and hemmorhoids in your ass?

[T206Collector]

. . . one of the lamest 235+ post car-crash-troll threads I've ever forced myself to read through on Net54baseball.com.

Aside from the lefty-righty political Nazi jabs taking place in the margins, the whole thing can be summed up by (1) a guy that is legally selling altered reprints vs. (2) the conscience of the entire pre-war baseball card community that disdains people that legally sell altered reprints.

I've enjoyed my popcorn more watching "I know you are, but what am I" fights between kids on a playground.

Sheesh... no reason to lock the thread, it's so boring it will ultimately fall by the weight of its own lameness.

[rarerookies]

How sweet of you. Thanks bro

Originally Posted by FUBAR

Rarerookies.. i got you a Christmas present

http://www.amazon.com/How-Win-Friend...1707774&sr=8-1

[canjond]

Have we hit 10,000 views yet?

[Big Six]

is for this thread to die...

Please Leon, put an end to this...

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Big Six

is for this thread to die...

Please Leon, put an end to this...

As a general rule I don't like to lock threads, censor, tell people what to say, protect advertisers or ban/suspend people etc.......Think of a moderator as a referee in a fight. They should be seen but not heard too much. If people will quit posting in this thread it will move off of the page...

[rarerookies]

Wow 10,000 views on this thread. I never thought it would reach this number. I just wanted to let everyone know that I have enjoyed this conversation. I really didn't intend to get into a moral or ethical debate with everyone but it has been fun. Really a lot of fun. And thank you Leon for letting me express my opinion about the subject.

I actually started signing up on forums to sell cards. I quickly found out that you guys weren't interested to say the least and I have respected the requests and no posted anymore reprints for sale you net54.

I'll have to agree with you guys on here. We are starting to beat a dead horse. You guys have your opinion and I have mine, neither one right or wrong.

But we need to move on. I think we all know where we stand on the issue. This is the first forum I have ever really posted responses on. Before that I didn't know what a "troll" was or a "bump" was. I was simply arguing my point but now its time to move on to the next latest and greatest.

Have a good one
derek

Originally Posted by Leon

As a general rule I don't like to lock threads, censor, tell people what to say, protect advertisers or ban/suspend people etc.......Think of a moderator as a referee in a fight. They should be seen but not heard too much. If people will quit posting in this thread it will move off of the page...

[Jim VB]

Originally Posted by rarerookies

You guys have your opinion and I have mine, neither one right or wrong.

Oh, no. Clearly, one opinion is right and yours is wrong. (At least in this case.) The point may have been debatable, until you started scratching off "Reprint" on the backs of the cards. At that point, the discussion should have ended.

[rarerookies]

Whine and cry all you want about it. Opinions are like a**holes. Everyone's got 'em Jim. You really brought nothing of substance to the thread anyway

"The next time you have a thought... let it go."
-Ron White-

Originally Posted by Jim VB

Oh, no. Clearly, one opinion is right and yours is wrong. (At least in this case.) The point may have been debatable, until you started scratching off "Reprint" on the backs of the cards. At that point, the discussion should have ended.

[Ladder7]

[rarerookies]

lol

Originally Posted by Ladder7

[bbcard1]

Curtis manages the images of Ruth, Gehrig, Williams and several others. The cards may now be public domain, but several of the images, if reproduced without a license probably have opened up the publisher/creator to some pretty significant legal exposure.