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They have insane auctions, yet I never see the excitement on the board, before or after, that you see for REA. Any idea why? Just curious as to anyone's theory.
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Strong prices on some great cards. Happy to pick this one up.
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REA is sacred, Heritage is just a business.
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Congrats to whoever won the Haffner's bread Babe Ruth. Awesome card!
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I was very pleased to get this Matty.
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I won the George Crowe 1953 Milwaukee Braves GU jersey.

Braves shirts of that era are probably my favorite design of all time, '53 was their first year in Milwaukee, the shirt is in all original condition, close to 70 years old, and the player was a very nice, highly respected, and intelligent fellow, a great natural athlete, and instrumental in the integration movement. For under $2100 I thought it was a steal. Excerpts from the SABR article on him:

George Crowe was Indiana’s first Mr. Basketball and became a “Big Daddy” to early black players in major league baseball. “Crowe was the most articulate and far-sighted Negro then in the majors,” Jackie Robinson wrote. “Young Negroes turned to him for advice.”

He tried out for the Los Angeles Red Devils, a touring basketball team, and made the squad. He played forward opposite Jackie Robinson, who had just finished his first year in white baseball at Montreal. Future major leaguer Irv Noren was in the backcourt. When the Devils went broke after a few months, Crowe joined the New York Rens, a storied black basketball power since the 1920s. The team was originally known as the Harlem Renaissance Five because they played at the Renaissance Ballroom in Harlem. He said, “The Harlem Globetrotters got the publicity, but the Rens had the team.”

Baseball was Crowe’s year-round job during the 1950s. He barnstormed in the fall with teams headlined by Roy Campanella and Willie Mays, then moved on to the Caribbean during the winter. In the 1954-1955 season he played for Santurce, Puerto Rico, on one of the strongest winter league teams in history. The outfield included Mays, 20-year-old Roberto Clemente, and Negro League veteran Bob Thurman. Don Zimmer played shortstop, Negro League star Bus Clarkson was at third, and Sam Jones and local hero Ruben Gomez led the pitching staff.

Wherever he went, Crowe was the acknowledged leader of the African American players, most of them much younger than he. Vada Pinson, a rookie with Cincinnati in 1958, said Crowe “took me right under his wing. He came up to me and said, ‘If there are any problems, you come to me. I’m your father, your big daddy up here.’” Bob Gibson remembered that Crowe “was more like a dad and teacher than teammate, and most of what he counseled me on had nothing to do with playing the game.”

Crowe told Sports Illustrated’s Robert Boyle, “I like to see everybody keep their nose clean. And when you have fellows who are coming along who are new to this, I’m glad to give guidance.” He watched out for young black men no matter what uniform they wore: “If I knew a kid coming up with the Braves, I’d say to [Bill] Bruton, ‘Look out for this kid. Show him the places to eat. Don’t leave him stand in the hotel. Take him to the movies. Find out what he likes to do.’ “

Bill White said Crowe “was a very wise fellow who’d been through it all and, in the background, he led us in the integration movement [of spring training cities] in Florida before the Civil Rights Act.” In 1961, when Crowe was entering his final season, black Cardinals players seethed when their white teammates were invited to a Chamber of Commerce breakfast at a whites-only hotel in St. Petersburg. The next spring the team rented a motel where all the players and their families could stay together. Decades later Crowe reflected on the racism he had endured: “Even though you wanted to put it aside, you couldn’t. It couldn’t be put aside. Putting it aside was doing your best to ignore it, and that wasn’t easy, either. That’s what you had to do. You had to play through it.”

Crowe commanded respect from white teammates as well. By popular consent, he served as the judge of the Cardinals’ kangaroo court, meting out small fines for offenses such as missing the team bus or missing the cutoff man. He impressed Musial with how hard he worked to stay in shape. He told Musial, “The more time you spend on the bench the harder you’ve got to work to be ready when you’re called.”
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Not sure why a thread is not started for Heritage.

Did not even think of starting one.

I won the 1917 Boston Store Joe Jackson to go along with my 1917 CM Joe Jackson
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They have insane auctions, yet I never see the excitement on the board, before or after, that you see for REA. Any idea why? Just curious as to anyone's theory.
I think there's no thread or general excitement because these days you need to be a billionaire to collect the kind of cards that the AH's list.
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Beautiful jersey Mark.
Jeff, as soon as I saw that lot I just assumed it was going in your collection.
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Yeah, thought of that. Heritage sells all kinds of things. Maybe too corporate looking for some tastes.
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Did not even think of starting one.

I won the 1917 Boston Store Joe Jackson to go along with my 1917 CM Joe Jackson
That’s amazing.
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If that Jackson was a little nicer I would have been a contender. Very strong money for a 1.5 but good luck with it. I settled for the CJ Gandil SGC 9.




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I am happy with it.

I agree I would have preferred one with a nicer look but they are low population and they do not come up often, Let alone the higher grade ones.

Perhaps I paid up slightly for it but it is what I had to pay to beat out others for it.

If I am lucky enough in the future to upgrade it I will.

Regardless I am comfortable and happy to make this my 8th Joe Jackson card in my collection.

By the way I agree you got a very nice CJ Gandil with great eye appeal. Congrats
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I disagree. There are plenty of fantastic pre and post war cards available at AH's for less than 1k or even less than 100 bucks. I find fantastic deals in the weekly AH offerings like the Heritage Sunday night auctions.
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I picked this up.
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What a beauty Jackson! Congrats!
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Monster card and congratulations Ryan. Well bought imo and will be the next card to hit 1mil.
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Monster card and congratulations Ryan. Well bought imo and will be the next card to hit 1mil.
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Monster Card, Great Eye Appeal, Low Population, Famous Player

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That's who he is as a person. Expensive psychoanalysis to follow...
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I disagree. There are plenty of fantastic pre and post war cards available at AH's for less than 1k or even less than 100 bucks. I find fantastic deals in the weekly AH offerings like the Heritage Sunday night auctions.
I will def take a look at the weeklies, admittedly have not browsed those. My experience since 2020 has been it doesn't matter if I bid 10k or 100k— prices across the board have just skyrocketed beyond the reach of all but the .1%, primarily due to a nasty brew of unsavory ingredients well documented on every chatroom.
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I will def take a look at the weeklies, admittedly have not browsed those. My experience since 2020 has been it doesn't matter if I bid 10k or 100k— prices across the board have just skyrocketed beyond the reach of all but the .1%, primarily due to a nasty brew of unsavory ingredients well documented on every chatroom.
I missed out on a perfectly centered 1973 Reggie Jackson the other night. Final bid was $78, just as bummed as missing out on a 5k card.
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Did not even think of starting one.

I won the 1917 Boston Store Joe Jackson to go along with my 1917 CM Joe Jackson
Nice Card! I've always liked that pose. Good idea to pick up those rare cards when you can. Not sure when another will come around again.
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I had a fantasy about the group of signed snapshots, but it went for well beyond my budget. Congrats to whoever picked it up, and let me know if you're planning on getting rid of any (probably most?) of them.

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Great card. Speaking from experience I can tell you the olive green E94 Young is not an easy card to come by. Congrats!
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Great card. Speaking from experience I can tell you the olive green E94 Young is not an easy card to come by. Congrats!
Thanks Bob, such a tough set to go after, especially nowadays.
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Great HA pickups and Ryan stop buying my dream cards and Jeff you got a steal on that Boston store Jax. Can y’all plant a money tree at my house please.
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Some amazing pick ups gents! Congratulations! I struck out but that’s nothing new 😂.

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Thanks everyone for your support and kind words on the Boston Store Joe Jackson.

I Love my collection as I am sure most people on this forum loves their collection.

I Like this Card and Happy To Have This Card

I have 8 Jacksons and hope in the future (long distant future) to have over 20 quality Jacksons in this collection

Unless I Lose my focus or something else I like that is pre 1925 and Rare comes along.
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Thanks everyone for your support and kind words on the Boston Store Joe Jackson.

I Love my collection as I am sure most people on this forum loves their collection.

I Like this Card and Happy To Have This Card

I have 8 Jacksons and hope in the future (long distant future) to have over 20 quality Jacksons in this collection

Unless I Lose my focus or something else I like that is pre 1925 and Rare comes along.

Congratulations Jeff on your great addition to an already awesome Jackson collection!
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I won the George Crowe 1953 Milwaukee Braves GU jersey.

Braves shirts of that era are probably my favorite design of all time, '53 was their first year in Milwaukee, the shirt is in all original condition, close to 70 years old, and the player was a very nice, highly respected, and intelligent fellow, a great natural athlete, and instrumental in the integration movement. For under $2100 I thought it was a steal. Excerpts from the SABR article on him:

George Crowe was Indiana’s first Mr. Basketball and became a “Big Daddy” to early black players in major league baseball. “Crowe was the most articulate and far-sighted Negro then in the majors,” Jackie Robinson wrote. “Young Negroes turned to him for advice.”

He tried out for the Los Angeles Red Devils, a touring basketball team, and made the squad. He played forward opposite Jackie Robinson, who had just finished his first year in white baseball at Montreal. Future major leaguer Irv Noren was in the backcourt. When the Devils went broke after a few months, Crowe joined the New York Rens, a storied black basketball power since the 1920s. The team was originally known as the Harlem Renaissance Five because they played at the Renaissance Ballroom in Harlem. He said, “The Harlem Globetrotters got the publicity, but the Rens had the team.”

Baseball was Crowe’s year-round job during the 1950s. He barnstormed in the fall with teams headlined by Roy Campanella and Willie Mays, then moved on to the Caribbean during the winter. In the 1954-1955 season he played for Santurce, Puerto Rico, on one of the strongest winter league teams in history. The outfield included Mays, 20-year-old Roberto Clemente, and Negro League veteran Bob Thurman. Don Zimmer played shortstop, Negro League star Bus Clarkson was at third, and Sam Jones and local hero Ruben Gomez led the pitching staff.

Wherever he went, Crowe was the acknowledged leader of the African American players, most of them much younger than he. Vada Pinson, a rookie with Cincinnati in 1958, said Crowe “took me right under his wing. He came up to me and said, ‘If there are any problems, you come to me. I’m your father, your big daddy up here.’” Bob Gibson remembered that Crowe “was more like a dad and teacher than teammate, and most of what he counseled me on had nothing to do with playing the game.”

Crowe told Sports Illustrated’s Robert Boyle, “I like to see everybody keep their nose clean. And when you have fellows who are coming along who are new to this, I’m glad to give guidance.” He watched out for young black men no matter what uniform they wore: “If I knew a kid coming up with the Braves, I’d say to [Bill] Bruton, ‘Look out for this kid. Show him the places to eat. Don’t leave him stand in the hotel. Take him to the movies. Find out what he likes to do.’ “

Bill White said Crowe “was a very wise fellow who’d been through it all and, in the background, he led us in the integration movement [of spring training cities] in Florida before the Civil Rights Act.” In 1961, when Crowe was entering his final season, black Cardinals players seethed when their white teammates were invited to a Chamber of Commerce breakfast at a whites-only hotel in St. Petersburg. The next spring the team rented a motel where all the players and their families could stay together. Decades later Crowe reflected on the racism he had endured: “Even though you wanted to put it aside, you couldn’t. It couldn’t be put aside. Putting it aside was doing your best to ignore it, and that wasn’t easy, either. That’s what you had to do. You had to play through it.”

Crowe commanded respect from white teammates as well. By popular consent, he served as the judge of the Cardinals’ kangaroo court, meting out small fines for offenses such as missing the team bus or missing the cutoff man. He impressed Musial with how hard he worked to stay in shape. He told Musial, “The more time you spend on the bench the harder you’ve got to work to be ready when you’re called.”

You are right, that is a beautiful jersey, and a fantastic story behind it. Congratulations on an awesome pick up!
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Not sure why a thread is not started for Heritage.

Did not even think of starting one.

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I won the George Crowe 1953 Milwaukee Braves GU jersey.

Braves shirts of that era are probably my favorite design of all time, '53 was their first year in Milwaukee, the shirt is in all original condition, close to 70 years old, and the player was a very nice, highly respected, and intelligent fellow, a great natural athlete, and instrumental in the integration movement. For under $2100 I thought it was a steal. Excerpts from the SABR article on him:

George Crowe was Indiana’s first Mr. Basketball and became a “Big Daddy” to early black players in major league baseball. “Crowe was the most articulate and far-sighted Negro then in the majors,” Jackie Robinson wrote. “Young Negroes turned to him for advice.”

He tried out for the Los Angeles Red Devils, a touring basketball team, and made the squad. He played forward opposite Jackie Robinson, who had just finished his first year in white baseball at Montreal. Future major leaguer Irv Noren was in the backcourt. When the Devils went broke after a few months, Crowe joined the New York Rens, a storied black basketball power since the 1920s. The team was originally known as the Harlem Renaissance Five because they played at the Renaissance Ballroom in Harlem. He said, “The Harlem Globetrotters got the publicity, but the Rens had the team.”

Baseball was Crowe’s year-round job during the 1950s. He barnstormed in the fall with teams headlined by Roy Campanella and Willie Mays, then moved on to the Caribbean during the winter. In the 1954-1955 season he played for Santurce, Puerto Rico, on one of the strongest winter league teams in history. The outfield included Mays, 20-year-old Roberto Clemente, and Negro League veteran Bob Thurman. Don Zimmer played shortstop, Negro League star Bus Clarkson was at third, and Sam Jones and local hero Ruben Gomez led the pitching staff.

Wherever he went, Crowe was the acknowledged leader of the African American players, most of them much younger than he. Vada Pinson, a rookie with Cincinnati in 1958, said Crowe “took me right under his wing. He came up to me and said, ‘If there are any problems, you come to me. I’m your father, your big daddy up here.’” Bob Gibson remembered that Crowe “was more like a dad and teacher than teammate, and most of what he counseled me on had nothing to do with playing the game.”

Crowe told Sports Illustrated’s Robert Boyle, “I like to see everybody keep their nose clean. And when you have fellows who are coming along who are new to this, I’m glad to give guidance.” He watched out for young black men no matter what uniform they wore: “If I knew a kid coming up with the Braves, I’d say to [Bill] Bruton, ‘Look out for this kid. Show him the places to eat. Don’t leave him stand in the hotel. Take him to the movies. Find out what he likes to do.’ “

Bill White said Crowe “was a very wise fellow who’d been through it all and, in the background, he led us in the integration movement [of spring training cities] in Florida before the Civil Rights Act.” In 1961, when Crowe was entering his final season, black Cardinals players seethed when their white teammates were invited to a Chamber of Commerce breakfast at a whites-only hotel in St. Petersburg. The next spring the team rented a motel where all the players and their families could stay together. Decades later Crowe reflected on the racism he had endured: “Even though you wanted to put it aside, you couldn’t. It couldn’t be put aside. Putting it aside was doing your best to ignore it, and that wasn’t easy, either. That’s what you had to do. You had to play through it.”

Crowe commanded respect from white teammates as well. By popular consent, he served as the judge of the Cardinals’ kangaroo court, meting out small fines for offenses such as missing the team bus or missing the cutoff man. He impressed Musial with how hard he worked to stay in shape. He told Musial, “The more time you spend on the bench the harder you’ve got to work to be ready when you’re called.”
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I think there's no thread or general excitement because these days you need to be a billionaire to collect the kind of cards that the AH's list.
I wouldn't go that far but this was billed as a platinum auction and advertised as such. I got the mailer and didn't really bother with it (other than checking for one of my boxing unicorns, which I do in every auction) because I knew I was not a serious contender for anything in it. It is hard to generate buzz on an auction where most people are not realistically going to win anything.

Everyone who did get something, bravo. You landed some amazing and beautiful items.
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