Show off your AMERICAN BEAUTY's....T205's and/or T206's

[pete zouras]

[tedzan]

TED Z

[tedzan]

TED Z

[Jantz]

Ted

Here is one of the few ABs that I own. I bought this one from your buddy Don F. when I was in Cooperstown. Nice wide borders for an AB 350 framed.


Jantz

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Jantz

Ted

Here is one of the few ABs that I own. I bought this one from your buddy Don F. when I was in Cooperstown. Nice wide borders for an AB 350 framed.


Jantz

Hey good buddy, I thought my Jonesy was a "fat" AB; but, your Lennox appears to be a standard width T206. How, did I miss that card....I usually go thru Don's T206
cards before the Cooperstown Show opens to the public.

Great get, Jantz.


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TED Z

[tedzan]

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TED Z

[tedzan]

Only 29 subjects from the 60 subjects in the 350/460 Series are confirmed printed with the AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 backs.
On display here are 12 of these cards.







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TED Z

[Vintagecatcher]

Ted,

Let's here the rest of the story regarding Jumpin" Joe and Norma Jean.


Patrick

[tedzan]

Patrick ...... I am glad you asked


Circa 1982, the scene is a New York City BB card show, in which Joe DiMaggio was the signing guest. As many of you old-timers may remember,
show promoters would warn autograph seekers not to present any item for Joe D to sign with Marilyn Monroe on it.

Well, at this show a dealer presented Joe a framed photograph of Joe to sign. Joe recognized this photo and took apart the frame, Joe removed
the cardboard backing and unfolded the other half of this photo. And, sure enough there was a photo of Marilyn....with her real signature on it.
Joe tore up this entire dual photograph in front of this "shocked" dealer, who went berserk.
It's my understanding that Joe, subsequently, reimbursed the dealer for the value of the Marilyn Monroe autograph.

As former sportscaster, Mel Allen, in his distinctive Southern drawl would say........" How's about that ? "







TED Z

[tedzan]

Only 37 subjects are confirmed printed with the AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 (no frame) backs. On display here are 6 of these cards.




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TED Z

[Vegas-guy]

My only AB

[tedzan]

Hey guys,

There are 74 subjects that were printed with the AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 (AB 460) advertisement. Currently, I
have 57 cards, so if you have any of the 17 cards listed here with AB 460 backs that you are willing to sell (or
trade), I would really appreciate it. Any condition (ungraded or graded) will do. Please contact me via email.....

tedzan11@comcast.net


BESCHER (hands above head)
BRIDWELL (portrait-cap)
CAMNITZ (hands above head)
COBB (bat off shoulder)
CRAWFORD (bat)
DOYLE (portrait)
JORDAN (bat)
MARQUARD (follow thru)
McGRAW (portrait-cap)
McQUILLAN (bat)
SCHLEI (portrait)
SEYMOUR (portrait)
SMITH (Brooklyn)
TINKER (bat off shoulder )
TINKER (bat on shoulder )
WAGNER (bat on right shoulder)
WILTSE (portrait-cap)


I am especially grateful to Drew Apoldite, Barry Arnold, Bill Brown, Craig Diamond, Joe Drouillard, Todd Marcum,
Frank Wakefield, and Brian Weisner for providing me some of the AB 460 cards in my set, since I started this
adventure 7-years ago.


TED Z

[tedzan]

I acquired a few more cards for my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set since this thread was last posted. The most significant card is Mr. Cobb.








I still need these 13 cards to complete the AB 460 sub-set (comprising of 74 cards). Any help is really appreciated. Email.... tedzan11@comcast.net

BESCHER..........................McGRAW (cap)
BRIDWELL.........................McQUILLAN (bat) (Brooklyn)
CAMNITZ..........................SCHLEI (portrait)
CRAWFORD (bat)...............SEYMOUR (portrait)
DOYLE (portrait)................SMITH (Brooklyn)
JORDAN (bat)....................TINKER (bat off)
MARQUARD)..................... WAGNER (bat on right)
.......................................WILTSE (portrait-cap)


Hey guys......
This Cobb (front & back) is better looking than these fuzzy scans. My scanner produces great scans of RAW cards and PSA graded cards; but, the scans of SGC graded cards
are usually fuzzy. Does anyone else here have this same problem ?



TED Z

[atx840]

What a card Ted!!!

CCD sensor based scanners work best for slabbed cards (depth of field). It's likely yours has a CMOS type sensor (great for raw and shallow depth items)

[tedzan]

Chris

My scanner is a relatively inexpensive one; therefore, you are probably right that it is CMOS based. The scanners with CCD technology are more expensive.

In any event, what I don't understand is that I get clear scans of PSA graded cards....but, the SGC graded cards are usually fuzzy. What is the difference
between the plastic used by PSA vs. the plastic that SGC uses ?


TED Z

[ethicsprof]

Don't know much about scanners but I absolutely know that your Cobb
is gorgeous.
Congrats on a top shelf acquisition.
all the best,ole buddy
barry

[lharri3600]

here's mine

[Ronnie73]

Ted, Thats an incredible looking Ty Cobb. I'm only 22 cards into the same set and even though I don't have any duplicates to trade, none of my 22 are on your want list. The scanner I use is around 10+ years old and does all scans nice and clear including raw, PSA, SGC, even coins raw and slabed. It's a flatbed Umax Astra 3400 running on Windows XP. It took some time getting it to work since the latest driver is for Windows ME. Not all the options work like auto on and off because of the driver but the scan features all work. I'd like to get a new scanner but afraid of the problem your running into with certain types of scans being fuzzy. Anyways, good luck on the final 15 and congrats on the first 60.

[itjclarke]

My only AB in either set..

[E93]

Ted,
Big congrats on that Cobb! As you know, that is a VERY tough card!
JimB

[atx840]

Great card Ian

[itjclarke]

Originally Posted by atx840

Great card Ian

Thanks. It's like the 5th Duffy in this thread, but I had to represent with sumpin!

[sdkammeyer]

Originally Posted by tedzan

I acquired a few more cards for my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set since this thread was last posted. The most significant card is Mr. Cobb.





I still need these 15 cards to complete the AB 460 sub-set (comprising of 75 cards). Any help is really appreciated. Email.... tedzan11@comcast.net

AMES (hands above head)...............................DOYLE (portrait)...............................SCHLEI (portrait)
BESCHER (hands above head)..........................JORDAN (bat)...................................SEYMOUR (portrait)
BRIDWELL (portrait-cap).................................MARQUARD (follow thru).....................TINKER (bat off shoulder)
CAMNITZ (hands above head)..........................McGRAW (portrait-cap)......................WAGNER (bat on right shoulder)
CRAWFORD (bat)...........................................Mc QUILLAN (bat)..............................WILTSE (portrait-cap)


Hey guys......
This Cobb (front & back) is better looking than these fuzzy scans. My scanner produces great scans of RAW cards and PSA graded cards; but, the scans of SGC graded cards
are usually fuzzy. Does anyone else here have this same problem ?



TED Z

HOLY HELL .... YOU WIN
that Cobb is beautiful. If you ever sell it PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let me know.
Also, no I dont have the scanner problem and I am not sure why you are having it .... that is weird. Have you tried playing around with your scanner settings? That is a strange thing right there.

Anyways .... the Cobb is wonderful Ted. Thank you so much for sharing.

[tedzan]

Hey guys,

Thanks for the compliments regarding the AB 460 Cobb. I have to thank Jay Miller, who remembered me regarding this AB 460 Cobb.


Speaking about AB 460 cards, since I bumped up this thread, I have received two emails regarding deals on acquiring AB 460 cards
for my sub-set.

As Jackie Gleason (The Honeymooners) used to say....Net54er's...."you're the greatest" !

I really appreciate all your responses,


TED Z

[Marslife]

that Cobb is NICE!

here is my 460 with a couple other factory 42's - The birds!

Cliff

Ab backs 1.jpg
Ab backs 2.jpg

[Bocabirdman]

One of my favorite Studio Dead albums

Grateful_Dead-American_Beauty-Frontal.jpg

[sdkammeyer]

Originally Posted by Bocabirdman

One of my favorite Studio Dead albums

Attachment 88108

ahhhh you merry prankster you

[Bocabirdman]

Originally Posted by sdkammeyer

ahhhh you merry prankster you

Steve, I love how without much effort, it can be read as American Reality

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Ronnie73

Ted, Thats an incredible looking Ty Cobb. I'm only 22 cards into the same set and even though I don't have any duplicates to trade, none of my 22 are on your want list. The scanner I use is around 10+ years old and does all scans nice and clear including raw, PSA, SGC, even coins raw and slabed. It's a flatbed Umax Astra 3400 running on Windows XP. It took some time getting it to work since the latest driver is for Windows ME. Not all the options work like auto on and off because of the driver but the scan features all work. I'd like to get a new scanner but afraid of the problem your running into with certain types of scans being fuzzy. Anyways, good luck on the final 15 and congrats on the first 60.

Thanks Ron

Good luck with this AB challenge. You'll find out that a dozen AB 460 subjects [Crandall, Devore, Duffy, Ford, Gandil, Geyer, Hummel, McGraw (glove), Pfeffer, Sheckard,
Tannehill, Wheat] are considerably more available than others from the 460-Only series. These guys must have been Double-Printed, or perhaps Triple-Printed.

And, I would say that mostly all the 28 subjects from the 350/460 series with AB 460 backs are quite tough to find.


TED Z

[tedzan]

I acquired a few more of these elusive AB 460 gems from Net54er's....you guys are the greatest....63 is my count now.

So, I still need these 11 cards to complete this AB 460 sub-set (comprising of 74 cards). Any help is really appreciated.
Email me directly...... tedzan11@comcast.net


CAMNITZ (hands above head)
CRAWFORD (bat)
DOYLE (portrait)
JORDAN (bat)
MARQUARD (follow thru)
McGRAW (portrait-cap)
Mc QUILLAN (bat)
SCHLEI (portrait)
SEYMOUR (portrait)
TINKER (bat off shoulder)
WILTSE (portrait-cap)


Recent acquisitions..........
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. . .

Thanks Adam, Kenny, and Pete


Hey guys, anymore T205 or T206 AB's ? Why not show them off ?



TED Z

[T205 GB]

I have a nice set of scans but this site is iffy for me uploading. Can upload one day and the same pic not able to a few hrs latter. I would love to show them off though.

Ted Z give me a ring sometime buddy or shoot me an email.

[kdixon]

Here is Zach.

[deadballfreaK]

[deadballfreaK]

[srs1a]

A few HOFers....

[tedzan]

Some AB cards are tough; and, other AB cards are less tough. For example, the Del Howard card is a tougher AB (only 2 are graded).
Both of these are PSA 2; and, there are no SGC graded cards of Del Howard.


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TED Z

[tedzan]

Great AMERICAN BEAUTY cards, guys.

Really love those Speaker cards.

Let's keep posting these "green backs"


TED Z

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by big80s

Jeff

Your Eddie Collins is a real beauty; and, with a well-centered back. Thank you for posting it.

PSA has only two AB 350 cards graded (and I am assuming that one of them is yours). SGC has not graded any AB 350 cards
of Eddie Collins.

I have the 3rd one with an AB 350 back, it is barely Vg (not graded). I have looked for some time to upgrade this Collins card.
It is indeed another example of one of the tougher ones with the AB 350 back. Let's see if anyone else here has this Collins ?


TED Z

[Brian Weisner]

Hi Ted,
Be careful using "Pop Reports"... I have over 100 AB's graded by PSA but none have the back listed.... I also have quite a few Raw cards...

Here are a few:





Be well Brian

[Mikehealer]

Brian, that Duffy is one of the nicest AB I've ever seen. Great card.

[deadballfreaK]

Green is my favorite color. Maybe that's why AB has always been my favorite back. TOUGH, but not impossible like Uzit or Drum.

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by Brian Weisner

Hi Ted,
Be careful using "Pop Reports"... I have over 100 AB's graded by PSA but none have the back listed.... I also have quite a few Raw cards...

Be well Brian

Brian

I know what you mean......I have some cards graded by SGC in their early start-up days that don't appear on their current POP report data.


Speaking about SGC grading, maybe you can figure this out (because I cannot). I think my Matty should warrant a "60" and my Gandil a "40" (or "50").....instead of a "60".
Both are equally off-center; and, backs are clean on both of these cards.

What's your opinion on this ?






Thanks for your consideration,

TED Z

[Brian Weisner]

Hi Ted,
I can't answer your questions.... But, I can tell you that PSA has been very tough on AB's for quite sometime... SGC used to be more lenient on centering, but may have changed recently.... I haven't had anything graded in quite sometime.... Be well Brian



Thanks Mike.... I bought it raw several years ago.... It's one of my favorites.

[tedzan]

It is evident that these 12 subjects from the 460-only series are considerably more available than most T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY cards. My theory is that these 12 subjects were
Triple-Printed on a sheet of their own. Such as this simulated 36-card sheet shown here.

This printing pattern is replicated for the SOVEREIGN 460 and Red HINDU cards of these 12 guys. Furthermore, these 12 subjects differ from their "cousins" in the 460-only series
with respect to other tobacco advertising backs. Therefore, I refer to them as the "Exclusive 12". For more info regarding these 12, check-out this thread............
http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=163949










TED Z

[tedzan]

Recently acquired a few more cards for my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 run. I am 8 cards away from completing this 74-card T206 subset
The two Seymour cards are the result of winning both simultaneously in two different auctions. I didn't want to risk loosing Seymour,
so I bid on this card in both auctions that night....figuring on getting one of them....but, to my surprise, I won both.









This Frank Smith (Chicago and Boston) is one of the tougher AB 460 cards to find. I purchased this one for 2 reasons, it is an upgrade
in my set.....and, I could not pass it up since it is a double (same) name card.





Hey guys....let's see some more of your AMERICAN BEAUTY's....T205 or T206.


TED Z
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LOOKING FOR these T206 guys to complete my AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 sub-set

CAMNITZ....CRAWFORD (bat)....DOYLE (port)....JORDAN (bat)....McGRAW (port-cap)
McQUILLAN (bat)....TINKER (bat off)....Wiltse (portrait-cap)

[srs1a]

A recent pick up

[soxinseven]

My lone example

[insccollectibles]

Here's my latest American Beauty

[Tobacco&Gum]

Just got this one in due to the kindness of a fellow board member.

[Gradedcardman]

Nice card Vinny