$400+ for 1952T Mantle....

[CW]

Sold for $3828 in Sterling back in Feb of '15, almost a year ago...

Original thread

[begsu1013]

posting vcp info first solely in "a" condition for remaining 3 tpgs for the last 2 years:

PSA:

12/30/15 eBay Listing $7,995.95
11/28/15 eBay Listing $12,000.00
11/8/15 eBay Auction $7,777.00 Altered
11/1/15 eBay Listing $16,000.00
10/7/15 eBay Auction $4,464.00
9/24/15 eBay Auction $6,800.00 Altered
9/9/15 eBay Auction $11,877.00
8/9/15 eBay Auction $4,803.00
6/13/15 eBay $5,750.00
6/10/15 eBay $5,750.00
5/25/15 eBay $4,990.00 Altered
5/11/15 eBay $15,690.00 Altered
4/26/15 REA $4,800.00 Recolored
3/29/15 Love of the Game $10,200.00
3/9/15 eBay $5,111.00
10/18/14 eBay $1,590.00
6/5/14 eBay $3,790.00
5/30/14 Legendary $14,340.00
5/28/14 eBay $2,200.00 Altered
5/22/14 eBay $3,350.00 Altered
4/5/14 eBay $4,000.00
12/31/13 eBay $6,000.00


SGC:

1/18/16 eBay Listing $7,000.00
6/21/15 eBay $7,499.99
4/9/15 Huggins & Scott $4,481.25
11/2/14 eBay $7,000.00
10/19/14 REA $3,900.00
12/6/13 Greg Bussineau $13,320.00


BVG: (NOT MUCH)

11/16/15 eBay Auction $5,355.00 Altered
4/6/14 eBay $3,119.52

[sbfinley]

The higher valuations are correct. $5k is the buy in to be a contender for poor Mantle now, and that's just enough to sit at the table and bid. If this card was authentic and being auctioned by a legitimate seller the minimum estimate I would expect to see would be $2200-$2500 and it would likely hammer closer to a grand more.

As the for the card in question, it is a counterfeit type 1.

[begsu1013]

ok, w/ vcp pricing transparent (not that that really means anything) does anyone have any info on the psa 10/14 sale of $1590?

legit sale? I do not remember seeing it if so and usually check at least twice a day on the 52 for what pops up.

if it was an actual sale and not a hijacked quick scam account, I would love to see the condition of that card...


other than that other $2200 sale on 5/14, everything else is well above the $3k mark. and most of the "sorta" documented sales are prior to the explosion that has occurred this past 8 months or so.

and while I am not knocking vcp in any means and these are pretty much code/computer initiated recordings, these fake sales do slip past the goalie. here is the info that still registers on a signed 51 bowman that is completely fraudulent...I know because I hit the BIN as soon as I saw it. hijacked account, fake ups slip sent to some random address in my hometown...reported to vcp, they did nothing to remove it from their database:

1/8/16 Goodwin Auction $23,677.20
12/16/15 eBay Listing $5,990.00 (FRAUD SALE)

eta: and on the flip side, there's another completely legitimate one that did sell on 8/4/15 that is not listed on vcp.

i remember that day very whale! ; )

[1952boyntoncollector]

Also it has been discussed that 'A' cards can be worth as much as 2-4 depending on the condition... beat up PSA 1s are not worth as much as centered clearly altered centered Mantles without spectacles.

Basically some As have much more eye appeal than 1s and people pay extra for that.......the same person that pays 1000 for a certain A may be 5000+ for the best A...on a 1000 dollar card you rarely see that type of a difference in price

[TheNightmanCometh]

Sat there and studied a pic of an authentic Mantle compared to this one and I can't help but feel that this is a fake. I looked at the two printings that Topps came out with and immediately ruled out one. The one I studied was the "missing pixel" version of the card, where the corner of the black border is missing a pixel, thus creating an angle where the point should be. This card either has a less severe angle or is completely rounded.

Authentic...

http://goodwinandco.com/ItemImages/0...52-10a_lg.jpeg

Mantle in question...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161957962758...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[jmb]

Originally Posted by CW

Sold for $3828 in Sterling back in Feb of '15, almost a year ago...

Original thread

How is it that the beat to hell cards are always centered perfectly ?

[MattyC]

I have noticed the exact same thing! It seems whenever I am seeking a card, I encounter a beat one that has ultra rare centering. Hysterical.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I question that 1. It doesn't seem to have the lower left missing pixel. Agree with above poster.

[irv]

Originally Posted by begsu1013

ok, w/ vcp pricing transparent (not that that really means anything) does anyone have any info on the psa 10/14 sale of $1590?

legit sale? I do not remember seeing it if so and usually check at least twice a day on the 52 for what pops up.

if it was an actual sale and not a hijacked quick scam account, I would love to see the condition of that card...


other than that other $2200 sale on 5/14, everything else is well above the $3k mark. and most of the "sorta" documented sales are prior to the explosion that has occurred this past 8 months or so.

and while I am not knocking vcp in any means and these are pretty much code/computer initiated recordings, these fake sales do slip past the goalie. here is the info that still registers on a signed 51 bowman that is completely fraudulent...I know because I hit the BIN as soon as I saw it. hijacked account, fake ups slip sent to some random address in my hometown...reported to vcp, they did nothing to remove it from their database:

1/8/16 Goodwin Auction $23,677.20
12/16/15 eBay Listing $5,990.00 (FRAUD SALE)

eta: and on the flip side, there's another completely legitimate one that did sell on 8/4/15 that is not listed on vcp.

i remember that day very whale! ; )

Side question. Can you please tell me what VCP and BIN is?
Thanks.

Originally Posted by jmb

How is it that the beat to hell cards are always centered perfectly ?

Originally Posted by MattyC

I have noticed the exact same thing! It seems whenever I am seeking a card, I encounter a beat one that has ultra rare centering. Hysterical.

Just to make you guys feel better, here is another rough one that doesn't have perfect centering. Not sure what difference it would make on this card, but I assume it wouldn't be much?

[Bored5000]

VCP = vintagecardprices.com. It is a subscription website that lists previous sale prices for cards by grade.

BIN = Buy It Now on eBay or other fixed price listing.

[irv]

Originally Posted by Bored5000

VCP = vintagecardprices.com. It is a subscription website that lists previous sale prices for cards by grade.

BIN = Buy It Now on eBay or other fixed price listing.

Thank you!