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Old 07-11-2019, 09:30 PM
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Default 1950 Philadelphia Athletics Signed Ball

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I picked this up 2 days ago. I was confused by prices. Heritage sold one with Connie Mack and Mickey Cochrane for $4,400 and others go for $400. Why such a large difference? Thanks for the insight.


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Old 07-11-2019, 10:25 PM
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It’s a good question, as I too have noticed huge price disparities on balls like this. But to properly answer it, you’d need to post pics or a link to the Heritage lot. If you can do that, you’ll likely get some better answers.

Regardless, that’s a very nice/clean example you acquired.
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Old 07-12-2019, 09:49 AM
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It’s a good question, as I too have noticed huge price disparities on balls like this. But to properly answer it, you’d need to post pics or a link to the Heritage lot. If you can do that, you’ll likely get some better answers.

Regardless, that’s a very nice/clean example you acquired.
$4,400 one
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515
$310
https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515
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Old 07-12-2019, 10:57 AM
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Connie Mack was deemed a clubhouse signature on the $310 ball.
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Connie Mack was deemed a clubhouse signature on the $310 ball.
Does Connie Mack add $4,100 of value though?
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Well he is the biggest signature on the ball, he sits right on the sweetspot, and was the leader of the team. So it is pretty glaring for his sig to be secretarial.

I think it's just a case of two bidders really wanting the Heritage example, and driving it up well beyond market value.... combined with yours going a bit inexpensively.

Still a huge price disparity, but those collectors with biggest pockets wouldn't want a secretarial Mack.
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Well he is the biggest signature on the ball, he sits right on the sweetspot, and was the leader of the team. So it is pretty glaring for his sig to be secretarial.

I think it's just a case of two bidders really wanting the Heritage example, and driving it up well beyond market value.... combined with yours going a bit inexpensively.

Still a huge price disparity, but those collectors with biggest pockets wouldn't want a secretarial Mack.

The second one wasn’t my ball. Mine is off to psa to be Authenticated. I will let you know if mine is deemed real or not!
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Best of luck, and sorry for the misinterpretation. I think yours will come back as authentic.

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The $4K ball has both Mack and Cochrane on the sweet-spot, and it is an official AL ball.

The $300 ball is an unofficial ball, with only Mack (not authentic) on the SS. The ball is also in worse condition, and the signatures are not as bold and clear as the more expensive ball.

Also, the $300 ball was sold in 2010, and the $4K ball was sold in 2007.

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The $4K ball has both Mack and Cochrane on the sweet-spot, and it is an official AL ball.

The $300 ball is an unofficial ball, with only Mack (not authentic) on the SS. The ball is also in worse condition, and the signatures are not as bold and clear as the more expensive ball.

Also, the $300 ball was sold in 2010, and the $4K ball was sold in 2007.

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Steve, if my ball is real would it be maybe $1,000-$2,000 due to cochrane not on the sweet spot?
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Steve, if my ball is real would it be maybe $1,000-$2,000 due to cochrane not on the sweet spot?

Oh, I really have no idea what it might be worth. One thing to keep in mind is that $4K ball was sold 12 years ago, and prices have changed a lot since then.

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