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Old 02-15-2010, 01:52 PM
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Default Uncut Bowman Sheets?

Wondering if anyone has seen any full uncut sheets of the large Bowman BB cards? The series breakdowns seem to run in multiples of 16, were the sheets really only 16 cards? I know some of the earlier cards were printed on small sheets but can;t recall seeing any big boys in full uncut form.
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Back in the 1980's I had a sheet of 1953 Bowman Color. I believe it was the thirty-two card run from 65-96. When Ted Z. sees this thread he will correct me if I am wrong. He helped me get it and has a better memory than me.
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Default Uncut Bowman sheets

Barry

You recall correctly, you acquired that 1953 Bowman sheet at the Philly (Ocean City) Show in the late 1980's.

I have many small Bowman (1948-1950) uncut sheets. Here is the only large Bowman sheet I have. It is a complete 1st series sheet of
the 1952 Bowman LARGE issue FB cards. I acquired it in 1981.....it is very rare, as I have not seen any other such sheets in the hobby.


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Thanks Ted.
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Thanks for posting Ted-I find it interesting that the Bowman sheets were so small compared to Topps.
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Default Dave H......

Howard Moll (of the George Moll Adv. Agency) told me that all 1948-1952 Bowman cards were printed
using a 38-inch printing press track and were 36 card sheets, configured 9 across x 4 rows.

All 1953-1955 Bowman cards were printed using a 43-inch printing press track and were 32 card sheets,
configured 8 across x 4 rows.


While the 1952-1956 Topps cards were printed using a 53-inch printing press track and were 100-card
sheets configured 10 across x 10 rows.


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My grandfather William Zabel was the President of Zabel Brothers Co in Philadelphia. When I was 7 years old in 1950, he began to give me full uncut sheets of the Bowman baseball cards. I taped them to my bedroom walls in Ocean City, NJ. I had full sets of sheets of Bowman and Topps through about 1959. In addition, my grandfather would bring me error sheets (upside down reverse side), one color missing, etc. I kept all the sheets in a large cardboard box (like a large TV would come in today).

In the summer of my Freshman year at college, 1962, I worked at Zabel Bros. One job I had was to go through all the old zinc/copper printing plates in the huge basement storeroom and ready them to be sold as scrap metal. I found many of the plates used to print the 1949-1956 Bowman and Topps cards. I packaged them with other plates. They were probably melted down.

When I returned to the US from 2 years in Nepal as a Peace Corps volunteer in 1970, I discovered that my mother had thrown into the trash my entire collection of uncut sheets as well as my huge individual card collection.

I wasn't angry, just sad. And I now wonder what would have happened if I had kept the original plates and could reprint the cards. Certainly the market value of the existing ones would be a lot lower.
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Great story Doug....and sad
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My grandfather William Zabel was the President of Zabel Brothers Co in Philadelphia. When I was 7 years old in 1950, he began to give me full uncut sheets of the Bowman baseball cards. I taped them to my bedroom walls in Ocean City, NJ. I had full sets of sheets of Bowman and Topps through about 1959. In addition, my grandfather would bring me error sheets (upside down reverse side), one color missing, etc. I kept all the sheets in a large cardboard box (like a large TV would come in today).

In the summer of my Freshman year at college, 1962, I worked at Zabel Bros. One job I had was to go through all the old zinc/copper printing plates in the huge basement storeroom and ready them to be sold as scrap metal. I found many of the plates used to print the 1949-1956 Bowman and Topps cards. I packaged them with other plates. They were probably melted down.

When I returned to the US from 2 years in Nepal as a Peace Corps volunteer in 1970, I discovered that my mother had thrown into the trash my entire collection of uncut sheets as well as my huge individual card collection.

I wasn't angry, just sad. And I now wonder what would have happened if I had kept the original plates and could reprint the cards. Certainly the market value of the existing ones would be a lot lower.

That has to be one of the most painful "My mom thew out my baseball cards" stories I have ever heard. Do you have any photographs of your room with the sheets on the wall?
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