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Old 10-03-2012, 02:32 PM
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I am considering the possibility of expanding my BB HOF RC collection in the near future by around 50 cards or so (the next best group). This decision comes primarily as a result of the remaining cards that I need being either too expensive or too rare or both. In a similar manner to the way that the HOF Veterans Committee breaks down their best candidates by era, I am thinking of going with 10 individuals (including Players, Managers, Umpires, Negro Leaguers, Executives & Pioneers) from each of the following 5 eras (based on the majority of their career):

1. 19th Century (Pre-1900)
2. Pre-WWI (1900-1919)
3. WWI-WWII (1920-1945)
4. WWII-Expansion Era (1946-1969)
5. Expansion Era-Present (1970-Today)

I need to do lots of research before coming up with my candidates but thought that it would be fun to get some names from everyone as a strong concensus on some candidates can likely be reached and I can feel comfortable that at least those individuals are very worthy choices.

I look forward to hearing everyone's responses.

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Old 10-03-2012, 02:48 PM
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A couple names jump out at me off the top of my head:

Gil Hodges
Ted Simmons
Don Matttingly
Tony Oliva
Jack Morris
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:21 PM
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When I saw the title of this thread I thought Phil was expanding into collecting the T206 set.........
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Old 10-03-2012, 03:29 PM
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Are you looking for guys who might someday get in or guys that aren't quite HOF material but might eventually slide in?

For expansion era I'd consider
Dwight Evans - Consistent hitter, but just below what might be considered HOF material. 385 HR .272 1384 Rbi. Likely more RBI if he'd been on weaker batting teams. And he had a fantastic arm for an outfielder. The number of bases/runs prevented would probably be pretty high if they could ever find a way to track it. Just someone nobody wanted to run on.

Jason Varitek - Again, he'd be weak as a HOF candidate based purely on batting, and he was not much of a hitter his last 3-4 years. But he has more no hitters than any other catcher, and was a very solid leader on the field, and was popular with the fans.

Jim Thome - Still active I think. 612 HR in any era but the recent one would be first ballot. No implications or accusations so far. Not sure how the stigma of the era will affect him or that he's always been a somewhat low key sort of guy.

Other eras are tough for me, I didn't see the guys play so it's hard to pick a player just on stats. The couple that come to mind are Joe Wood and Nap Rucker. Both had fairly short careers, typical of hard throwers who were overused. Rucker was very good on a bad team which Must have hurt some of his numbers.

There are also loads of players who were the best of a decade or random 10 year stretch but didn't put up HOF type numbers overall.

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You could always go with the players who have received the 10 highest vote totals from those era's. Maybe with the modern guys, pick the 10 most likely HOFers with PED issues? Clemens, McGwire, Palmeiro, Bonds, etc...
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Old 10-03-2012, 04:12 PM
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How about some of the banned players like Rose and Joe Jax, the roid guys like Bonds, Palmeiro, and famous althuogh not necessarily great players like Thorpe?
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How about some of the banned players like Rose and Joe Jax, the roid guys like Bonds, Palmeiro, and famous althuogh not necessarily great players like Thorpe?
Hell, he could go straight for the "eight men out" plus Attell and Geddeon.(there's 10)

Banned players had crossed my mind before as a supplemental collection. Great idea Gary..

Also in sticking with the HOF theme. Eight former MLB players have been elected to the Pro Football Hall of Fame: Red Badgro, Paddy Driscoll, George Halas, Greasy Neale, Ernie Nevers, Ace Parker, Deion Sanders and Jim Thorpe. plus maybe the Heisman winners who also played in the majors. Janowicz and Jackson(there's another 10)

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In a nutshell, I am looking for those individuals that most dominated their era or were most important to the game of baseball. That criteria definitely excludes otherwise famous people like Jim Thorpe and definitely includes people like Pete Rose & Joe Jackson.
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here's an interesting list to get some ideas from...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...b-hall-of-fame
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When I saw the title of this thread I thought Phil was expanding into collecting the T206 set.........
I had a similar thought except I thought he was going after HOFers in the T206 set...especially since Phil believes that set is the true rookie card of every person in the Hall. Sorry Phil, too easy to pass up.

I think starting at Baseball Reference HOF list would be a good place to start. Then check the similar players and you could be close to a good starting point.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/hof.shtml

The ballot history would probably be an even better place to start:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/aw...-history.shtml
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