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Old 08-07-2015, 02:10 PM
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Bill has filed his sentencing memorandum with, by my count, over 50 supporting letters. Here is an excerpt from a letter from Marshall Fogel. Sorry for only being able to post in screenshot. Cannot cut and paste from the actual documents.
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From James Spence.
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Old 08-07-2015, 02:28 PM
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To me it is beyond amazing that someone would write a supporting letter for that piece of garbage. Maybe it is for the good of the hobby.Lol
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Thank you, Peter, for the update.
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Rex Stark.
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Perhaps folks could pen letters for this man as well. After all he asked politely. Who knows maybe some of the money was bound for his charitable efforts later on.

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2015/05/...8351431019618/

It amazes me how people can rush to the defense of someone who clearly took advantage of the collectors and the very industry that supports their beloved hobby. Perhaps it's a psychological thing, and playing the I forgive card is easier than looking in the mirror and saying "my so called buddy ripped me/others off and I feel betrayed".

Disappointing, sad and disappointing.
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Just threw up a little bit.
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To me it is beyond amazing that someone would write a supporting letter for that piece of garbage. Maybe it is for the good of the hobby.Lol
There are letters from relatives, charities, and members of the religious community, among others.
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Attachment Description
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Exhibit Randy M. Mastro Letter 3 pages 1.7 mb
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Exhibit Mary Lou Mastro Letter 3 pages 1.3 mb
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Exhibit Marshall Fogel Letter 3 pages 1.0 mb
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Exhibit James J. Spence, Jr. Letter 1 page 500 kb
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Exhibit John J. Scott Letter 2 pages 0.6 mb
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Exhibit Thomas C. O'Connell Letter 2 pages 0.8 mb
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Exhibit Rex Stark Letter 2 pages 0.6 mb
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Exhibit Albert H. Greenbaum Letter 8 pages 2.2 mb
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Exhibit Hubert J. Santos Letter 1 page 448 kb
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Exhibit Dr. David A. Fleishman Letter 1 page 442 kb
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Exhibit Ann T. Resca Letter 1 page 0.5 mb
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Exhibit David B. Bowen Letter 2 pages 1.1 mb
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Exhibit Ashley Mastro Letter 2 pages 0.8 mb
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Exhibit Christina Mastro Letter 1 page 510 kb
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Exhibit Anthony Evora Letter 2 pages 0.9 mb
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Exhibit Jennifer Morales Letter 3 pages 1.4 mb
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Exhibit Irene McCartin Letter 2 pages 1.1 mb
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Exhibit Hector Morales Letter 2 pages 1.1 mb
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Exhibit Shannon Welch Letter 2 pages 1.1 mb
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Exhibit John Markey Letter 2 pages 0.7 mb
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Exhibit Jan Kraft Letter 2 pages 0.8 mb
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Exhibit Joan Rundle Letter 1 page 458 kb
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Exhibit Ruby Harris Alexander Letter 2 pages 0.6 mb
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Exhibit Ewa Jedrol Letter 1 page 410 kb
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Exhibit Dr. John J. Hart Letter 1 page 448 kb
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Exhibit James Prendergast Letter 2 pages 0.8 mb
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Exhibit Tricia Leishman Letter 1 page 490 kb
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Exhibit Rev. Frank A. Kurucz Letter 2 pages 0.6 mb
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Exhibit Meghan Moreno Letter 2 pages 0.6 mb
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Exhibit J. William Adams Letter 2 pages 0.9 mb
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Exhibit Valerie A. Ward Letter 1 page 276 kb
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Exhibit Rev. Edward J. Cronin Letter 1 page 363 kb
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Exhibit Michelle Maxia Letter 3 pages 1.2 mb
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Exhibit Rev. Michael M. Boland Letter 2 pages 0.8 mb
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Exhibit Frank E. Milos Letter 2 pages 1.1 mb
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Exhibit Mike Wantiez Letter 2 pages 0.9 mb
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Exhibit Mitch Weiner Letter 2 pages 0.8 mb
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Exhibit Dennis Parmley Letter 1 page 506 kb
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Exhibit Paul Shepard Letter 1 page 0.5 mb
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Exhibit Gerald McAuley Letter 1 page 379 kb
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Exhibit Carl Joseph Garber Letter 2 pages 0.9 mb
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Exhibit Michael Ulbricht Letter 1 page 495 kb
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Exhibit Jason Salerno Letter 1 page 489 kb
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Exhibit Fr. Svetozar Kraljevic Letter 1 page 0.8 mb
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Exhibit Dr. Noreen Ann Salmon Letter 1 page 313 kb
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Exhibit Tiffany Sullivan Letter 1 page 338 kb
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Exhibit Patricia Lynne Franklin Letter 2 pages 0.8 mb
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Exhibit Daniel A. Alberts Letter 1 page 475 kb
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Exhibit Fr. Pat Murphy Letter 2 pages 0.7 mb
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Exhibit Sister Marie Clare Letter 1 page 500 kb
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Exhibit Mother Gabrielle Marie Letter 1 page 414 kb
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Exhibit Michael P. McMahon Letter 2 pages 0.8 mb
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Exhibit Bonnie Woodward Letter 1 page 290 kb
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Exhibit Timothy J. Rivelli Letter 3 pages 1.6 mb
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Exhibit Kathy Donahue Letter 3 pages 1.7 mb
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Exhibit Fr. Gerald Kelly Letter 3 pages 1.5 mb
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Exhibit Jim Fogarty Letter 2 pages 1.1 mb
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Exhibit Dr. Walter Whang Letter 1 page 413 kb
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I am reminded of the words of Col. Kurtz ," The horror,the horror." actual support for him ? how about the shill victims ?
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II. BILL MASTRO’S PERSONAL BACKGROUND AND CHARACTER ...................................... 5
A. Personal History, Education, and Career .................................................. .......................... 5
1. Early Life .................................................. .................................................. ........... 5
2. A Pioneer in the Sports Collectibles Industry .................................................. ...... 7
B. Devotion to Family .................................................. .................................................. ....... 14
C. A Lifetime of Compassion, Kindness, and Generosity .................................................. ... 17
1. Individual Acts of Kindness and Financial Generosity ....................................... 18
2. Personal Sponsorship of Hundreds of Recovering Addicts ................................. 25
3. Religious Conviction and Pilgrimages to Medjugorje ......................................... 29
4. Service to the Chicago Community .................................................. ................... 32
D. Physiological and Psychological Conditions and Necessary Treatment ........................... 35
E. Genuine Remorse, Acceptance of Responsibility, and Cooperation ................................ 36

Bottom line, his lawyers ask for probation plus community service.
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Footnote 20.
Specifically, in April 2013, New York attorney Jeffrey Lichtman posted on a prominent hobbyist website a
solicitation encouraging self-identified “victims" to contact the Court, providing the Court’s mailing address
and the caption for Bill’s case. (Ex. 62) (“please let the judge know via letter”). That attorney previously
represented an individual in private civil litigation against Mastro Auctions and Bill, and has since publicly
criticized Bill’s plea agreement with the Government in the New York Daily News for not providing any
monetary restitution to Bill’s victims, some of whom the attorney represents. In short, at least some of these
letters appear to have been submitted at the encouragement of an attorney with an apparent stake in this case.
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No argument we make for leniency will change the reality that Bill has lived his remorse
and regret every day for the past eight years, and that he will continue to own up to his
misconduct for the rest of his life. It has eaten away at him in ways that come through in the
hundreds of letters of support penned on his behalf, especially those from his family, who speak
of the shame and suicidal impulses he has suffered as a result. Yet during this darkest period he
has redoubled his efforts to do charitable good works, serving his religion and helping those in
need. We therefore express four hopes in this submission.

First, we hope that, in looking at the whole of Bill’s life, this Court will see that—despite
the wrongs he admits to having committed—he has also changed so many lives for the better.
Unlike others who have been described as philanthropists, Bill has worked quietly and directly,
motivated by what the Senior Probation Officer describes as a “genuine sense of altruism” long
predating this investigation. He does not simply write checks; he is completely devoted with all
of his resources and time. He counsels people directly. He mends with them. He prays with
them. He works with them, whether it is helping them through emotional or substance-abuse
problems, financial straits, or physical labor. He helps them financially and through personal
guidance. And he works prodigiously, even walking Chicago’s public housing projects each
week to reach out and help those in need. Many, many people have come to depend on him.

Second, we hope that the Court sees that the important principles of deterrence—both
specific and general—have already been served in this case. Bill has been out of the sportsmemorabilia
industry since February 2009. He cannot and would not go back. His case is now
an epic tale within the industry, a lesson to all about the consequences of auction-related
misconduct. It is for this reason that even the Government has advised this Court that Bill’s
public confessions “provide a strong deterrent message to others in the industry, which was an
additional benefit to the government in this case.” See Government’s Memorandum in Support
of the Proposed Plea Agreement (Doc. No. 79) at 3.

Third, we hope that, given the breadth and depth of its experience, the Court will put
Bill’s offense in context when determining his ultimate punishment. During Bill’s time with the
auctions business, he had tens of thousands of customers. He sold more than $300 million worth
of sports memorabilia. Despite his transgressions, he helped create a vibrant industry, and
helped establish real standards for authentication and grading. Many, many people have
collections they are proud of, and investments they have profited from, because of Bill. Shill
bidding attributable to Bill’s offense conduct inflated the prices of approximately 1% of the more
than 100,000 total lots sold by Mastro Auctions—unquestionably the exception, not the norm.
Moreover, Bill was not selling a fraudulent product: his collectibles were authentic, and people
continue to enjoy them and profit from them all over the country today. This is not to say that
Bill’s conduct caused no harm. But he did not cause substantial financial hardship either: people
paid what they were willing to pay for these discretionary purchases—indeed, “might have spent
the same amounts of money absent the fraud,” according to the Senior Probation Officer—even
if, as Bill readily acknowledges, sometimes they should have paid less. Furthermore, as the
Senior Probation Officer notes, the average loss per customer did not cause “irreparable harm,”
and “unlike in most fraud schemes, [] the victims actually gained something of value.” In short,
every one of Bill’s customers received an authentic item they wanted, for a price they were
willing to pay, with the bulk of the proceeds going to consignors, not the auction house, and with
buyers typically experiencing an appreciation in value over time. Again, we do not offer this
perspective as an excuse or justification, but as relevant context for the offense conduct: Bill’s
misconduct, while wrong, was statistically infrequent, did not characterize his business practice,
and did not cause any type of substantial financial harm typical of what this Court has seen in
other financial-fraud cases.
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Taking Bill away from all the people who depend on him and whom he has served with
devotion and passion—like the dozens of people in AA he sponsors and the hundreds of people
he has taken at his own expense on religious pilgrimages, the many others to whom he ministers
walking the housing projects of Chicago, and the countless others he has helped through his
generous giving to worthy causes—would have unintended and far-reaching adverse
consequences. The Court could sentence Bill to a long period of probation with stringent
requirements of community service. And the Court could sentence Bill to the additional
condition of home confinement when he is not serving his community. Bill accepted a fine that
is more than double the highest end of the Sentencing Guidelines range—the maximum statutory
fine—and he paid it even before sentencing. (PSR ¶ 111). Bill voluntarily left the industry he
loved, and will never work in it again. He is a disgraced felon who is experiencing pain and
remorse and punishment. The punishment and suffering he has inflicted upon himself, while
surely not as severe as imprisonment, is nevertheless real and substantial. And we hope that with
punishment also goes mercy for a good man who did bad things, knows he did bad things, and
has demonstrated his commitment to making amends.
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Great thread but I am surprised anyone would think that a defendant shouldn't get every ounce of defense possible.
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We have a diverse representation here of many occupations, but the lawyering field is likely the most entertaining: everything from the elite in their field to at least one who couldn't catch a rickshaw ambulance.
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i got Diverse...

I have my own chocolate factory and cacao farm in the Dominican Republic.... ( in the Baseball Capitol of the world i might add)

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i got Diverse...

I have my own chocolate factory and cacao farm in the Dominican Republic.... ( in the Baseball Capitol of the world i might add)

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Please tell us you've got a chocolate lake with a tube that could suck up a chubby visitor - Please.......Maybe that you've hired singing little people too

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