TCMA checklists

[Mike Rich]

Many of the TCMA issues from the early & mid 70s are not catalogued in the annual SCD or Becketts. Some of the checklists that are in the big guides are incomplete or erroneous. I am hoping to find correct, complete checklists for the following TCMA issues:
1973 TCMA Exhibit style reprints
1972 TCMA E121 style reprints
1973 TCMA Sports Scoop HOF set of 12? SCD lists Cramer. I have an O'Doul not listed, among the 12 I have.
1973? TCMA "Sporting News" style listing either 1909 or 1910 in upper corner. Have 13 different from each 1909 & 1910.
1973 TCMA "Bobo" set: SCD lists 10 in the set. I have 11 different.
Any help would be appreciated.
Mike Rich

[Rich Klein]

I know Mr. Aronstein's son is a Net 54 member. I will tell you from experience we did the best we could in my Beckett days to catalog those cards but I knew that was not a perfect list. I just wish we could add those cards for you in those checklists but it's not a super high priority for those companies at this point.

Rich

[cardinalcollector]

Originally Posted by Mike Rich

Many of the TCMA issues from the early & mid 70s are not catalogued in the annual SCD or Becketts. Some of the checklists that are in the big guides are incomplete or erroneous. I am hoping to find correct, complete checklists for the following TCMA issues:
1973 TCMA Exhibit style reprints
1972 TCMA E121 style reprints
1973 TCMA Sports Scoop HOF set of 12? SCD lists Cramer. I have an O'Doul not listed, among the 12 I have.
1973? TCMA "Sporting News" style listing either 1909 or 1910 in upper corner. Have 13 different from each 1909 & 1910.
1973 TCMA "Bobo" set: SCD lists 10 in the set. I have 11 different.
Any help would be appreciated.
Mike Rich

Hi Mike, being a Cardinal collector, I can verify these singles:

1973 Exhibit Style: 1921 Hornsby, Bill Doak, Jesse Haines, Milton Stock, George Toporcer, Doc Lavan,
1922 Specs Toporcer, Jack Smith,
1922 Eastern Exhibit Hornsby
1923-24 J.F. Fournier

1972 E121: William Doak, Rogers Hornsby, John Lavan, Jeff Pfeffer, Ferd Schupp, Milton Stock, George Toporcer

1973 Sports Scoop HOF: Enos Slaughter, Spuds Davis

1973? TCMA "Sporting News" style listing either 1909 or 1910 in upper corner: Edward Konetchy

I also have TCMA reprints from 1928 Tharps, 1933 Tatoo Orbit, 1936 Goudey, 1936 Goudey Wide Pen, 1938 Goudey, 1913 Tom Barker.

[rhettyeakley]

Originally Posted by Mike Rich

Many of the TCMA issues from the early & mid 70s are not catalogued in the annual SCD or Becketts. Some of the checklists that are in the big guides are incomplete or erroneous. I am hoping to find correct, complete checklists for the following TCMA issues:
1973 TCMA Exhibit style reprints
1972 TCMA E121 style reprints
1973 TCMA Sports Scoop HOF set of 12? SCD lists Cramer. I have an O'Doul not listed, among the 12 I have.
1973? TCMA "Sporting News" style listing either 1909 or 1910 in upper corner. Have 13 different from each 1909 & 1910.
1973 TCMA "Bobo" set: SCD lists 10 in the set. I have 11 different.
Any help would be appreciated.
Mike Rich

Mike, I collect many of these sets and...

1973 Sports Scoop: I have the same 12 you do with no Cramer but I do have an O'Doul. It has been on my wantlist for several years so I am pretty sure we each a complete set. Simple checklist error.

1909-1910 Sporting News Postcard sized reprint: I also have 13 of 1909 and 13 of 1910 for the regular sized cards BUT I also have a very large oversized card of the 1910 Cubs and one of the A's. IN 1909 I have team cards of Pirates and Tigers. Each team card measures about 5-1/2" x 8-1/2". I have never seen this "set" checklisted and always wondered if I had the whole set.

I think I have about 60 different 1921-1924 Exhibit cards, probably 40-50 different E121 like cards, and 85-90 or so different Wide Pen/Fine Pen cards.

[Mike Rich]

Randy,
Thank you for the info. Since you like TCMA Cardinals I wonder if you are aware the 1974 set of 1934 Cardinals comes with a heading of Cardinals and also Gas House Gang. While many TCMA issues have different card stock, causing white back or gray backs, or have color differences on front, this is one of the few sets that I have seen where the heading is different.

[Mike Rich]

Rhett,
Like you I have about 50-60 of the 1921-1924 Exhibit cards. A few buddies of mine and I have come up with a potential list of 104 of the E-121 style. We question at least 3 of these, as having a "Collector Exchange" back, so I think those are a different issue. I have 99 of the 104, but 3 of the 5 I am missing are the Collector Exchange backs.
I am not familiar with the team cards you mention. Thank you for confirming my suspicion on the Sports Scoop HOF set.

[rhettyeakley]

Here are the team cards, I scanned one with a regular card to show relative size...

[cardinalcollector]

Originally Posted by Mike Rich

Randy,
Thank you for the info. Since you like TCMA Cardinals I wonder if you are aware the 1974 set of 1934 Cardinals comes with a heading of Cardinals and also Gas House Gang. While many TCMA issues have different card stock, causing white back or gray backs, or have color differences on front, this is one of the few sets that I have seen where the heading is different.

Mike, I am aware the 1974 Gas House Gang set has different headers, as shown in my scans, but I believe each player has the SAME header. There are a couple interesting variations between the common red header issue and the much scarcer blue tint issue. Cliff Crawford's header was actually changed, and Ernie Orsatti's photo was completely changed making a unique variation.

[Mike Rich]

Those team cards are great. I had not seen those before. If you ever come across them again, please let me know. While I have not added the TCMA Exhibit cards to my list, most of my wants and haves are on the following link:
http://www.oldbaseball.com/wantlists...l_tag=mrichoth
The sets I have completed are on a link from there as well.

[Rich Klein]

I just checked the COMC Data Base and that 1934-35 Cardinals/Gas House Gang set from 1974 is fraught with interesting twists and turns. We have to add a tan back for one grouping but if anything else needs to be added -- let me know. Please understand we deal with cards in hand (sent to us) so if you see something that way let me know.

Rich