Piedmont Cards / ACE Authenticated Babe Ruth Signed Silver Certificates

[Big Dave]

Hi Frank,

Save your money on the two Silver Certificates, as no opinion is needed on these two.

If you will research the names for the Register of Treasury (C. Douglas Dillon) and Secretary of Treasury (Elizabeth Rudel Smith), you will see that their term of office was from 1-30-1961 to 4-13-1962. Being as Babe Ruth died in 1948, it was impossible for him to have signed these Silver Certificates.

Sorry.

[mr2686]

Looks like ACE forgot rule #1...was the item available to sign during the signers lifetime.

[Piedmont Sport]

Thanks Dave - I know the coin shop that they were purchased at in Philadelphia - i'll be there today

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Piedmont Sport

Thanks Dave - I know the coin shop that they were purchased at in Philadelphia - i'll be there today

Frank, did one coin shop in Philly sell you all those Ruth's and Matty's?
If I were you , you have a chance to be a hero here. Work with LE and get those guys busted.
There have been forgery busts in PA before, Hooper I believe was the gentleman's name. Track down that case and get in touch with the LE that busted him.

[Piedmont Sport]

I'm having my Biz partner Stef Brown ESQ. handle from this point and we can pin -point 3 dealers - Shops,,,,, we will get to the bottom ,,,, naturally i'm pissed,,,, and Stef suggested that we want to make sure all the info left in this forum is correct. And a big issue is how i handle Justin Priddy - Thats a great deal of money spent. I wont be the first and im sure I wont be the last to be made to look like a fool.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Piedmont Sport

I wont be the first and im sure I wont be the last to be made to look like a fool.

It's how you handle the situation and yourself after the fact, which you will be judged on, most of the times. Mistakes happen. If you aren't making mistakes you probably aren't pushing the boundaries far enough, imho.

[David Atkatz]

Originally Posted by Piedmont Sport

I'm having my Biz partner Stef Brown ESQ. handle from this point and we can pin -point 3 dealers - Shops,,,,, we will get to the bottom ,,,, naturally i'm pissed,,,, and Stef suggested that we want to make sure all the info left in this forum is correct. And a big issue is how i handle Justin Priddy - Thats a great deal of money spent. I wont be the first and im sure I wont be the last to be made to look like a fool.

Oh, come on, Frank. Do you really expect that "I was duped" crap to play?

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by Piedmont Sport

Thanks Dave - I know the coin shop that they were purchased at in Philadelphia - i'll be there today

Frank, did you also ask Justin Priddy (ACE) why he authenticated those Babe Ruth signed Silver Certificates?

[RichardSimon]

Frank: Justin why did you authenticate those Babe Ruth signed Silver Certificates? I pay you good money to do the job right.
Justin: Uh, duh, duh, uh,,,, gotta go Frank.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by RichardSimon

Frank: Justin why did you authenticate those Babe Ruth signed Silver Certificates? I pay you good money to do the job right.
Justin: Uh, duh, duh, uh,,,, gotta go Frank.

Actually, maybe it was a babe named Ruth?

[canjond]

Originally Posted by Leon

Actually, maybe it was a babe named Ruth?

Leon you just reminded me of my favorite Ruth autograph ever!

[RichardSimon]

I have caught several other items the same way over the years including a Ruth signed picture with a printed insciption at the bottom that said "Greatest Ever right fielder" or something like that. Problem is the "greatest ever" series of photos came out in 1950.
I do my homework when I buy and when I authenticate, guess some others don't.

[thetruthisoutthere]

I would love to hear from Mr. Priddy (ACE).

[mschwade]

Originally Posted by Big Dave

Hi Frank,

Save your money on the two Silver Certificates, as no opinion is needed on these two.

If you will research the names for the Register of Treasury (C. Douglas Dillon) and Secretary of Treasury (Elizabeth Rudel Smith), you will see that their term of office was from 1-30-1961 to 4-13-1962. Being as Babe Ruth died in 1948, it was impossible for him to have signed these Silver Certificates.

Sorry.

Outstanding detective work Dave, appreciate your reply!

[thetruthisoutthere]

Yes, nice work, Dave.

[Fuddjcal]

Is this Dope Purdy the the new whipping boy or is he going all Chris Moral Less on us and authenticating everything he see's???? I'd like to think he is just a complete Nincompoop and a HORRIBLE authenticator, not a crook like Moral Less, but one has to wonder?

I would say to Frank, the owner of the silver certs... to stop using that butt wad to cert your stuff. He's sinking your ship & trying to ruin your good name. I'd rather buy an auto with nothing on it and know it's authentic than to use a boob like this guy who has been coming up short time and time again lately.

[thetruthisoutthere]

My question to Frank is "Why did you post that Babe Ruth hand-written note authenticated by ACE?" Was that your way of defending him as a good authenticator?

Also, if you knew it was a "Dead on Ruth" why would you have ACE authenticate it and not PSA or JSA?

And how could you possibly purchase all of those Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig and Matty cuts without raising an eyebrow?

[RichardSimon]

Nice work Dave, it is hard for the sellers of this kind of crap to dispute cold hard facts.
They can talk about one authenticator or another all they want, but facts are facts.
But,,, I wonder if they could have snuck a pen into Babe's grave and asked him for a few last signatures?

[thetruthisoutthere]

The proof is in the pudding, Frank. I will post the below photograph again. How did both you and Justin not notice that the "S" in Sincerely is written the same as the "L" in Lou?

Pep-5.jpg

[David Atkatz]

Although that Gehrig note is as phony as a three-dollar bill, Chris, the "S" is fine. It is a copy of an actual Gehrig letter, and he did write his "S" that way.