Tickets

[Dave Grob]

With respect to tickets, I may be a bit of a contrarian in that I would prefer a stub to a full unused ticket. I have very few tickets, less than a couple of dozen in my collection, but part of the allure for me is the connection to the event. Yes I know the full ones look great slabbed (so some might say) and command more money, but to me an unused ticket is an object without any relevance…

For me, ticket stubs and scorecards provide contextual enhancement to other items in my collection. Probably the best example I can think of is I have a 1940 World Series Game 7 ticket stub, Pouge’s Department Store scorecard (sold outside the gate) and an original team mailing envelope for World Series tickets in a small display with Paul Derringer’s 1940 World Series cap. Does including these other items with the cap change or enhance the value in any appreciable manner? Maybe not, but as group they enhance the visual appeal of the main artifact (Derringer cap) and stimulate thought about the time and place.

Dave Grob

[Bumpus Jones]

Very well said and very true Dave.

[vintagesportscollector]

Originally Posted by Bumpus Jones

Very well said and very true Dave.

I couldn't agree more. Dave's comment on.."stimulate thought about the time and place", especially resonates with me.

That is why I collect, because I love history and sport. Not to make a fortune, not with the faint hope that I will uncover some major treasure, not to keep score or have the most 'toys'...but to make small connections to history.

I recently bought a large lot of Cornell ephemera pulled from an early scrapbook for $10, about 50 pieces. All scrap and of little value, but I like digging through lots like this. Out of the lot I pulled this "Admit One Armory, Nov. 29, 1906" ticket. It had little meaning until I discovered what it was for. It was issued to listen to the wire reports of the 1906 Cornell/Penn football game. You can see it in the picture below, along with some of the other scraps.

The ticket is of a little value, but to tie it to what was going on that day, I find deeply rewarding. Reading this article about the wire reports from the Armory...they sold 2,000 tickets..cheerleaders directed the singing....chairs only for woman and faculty...and experienced wire operators. Consider the unimaginable technology available to us today to watch football wherever and however we want.

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[Scott Garner]

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector

I couldn't agree more. Dave's comment on.."stimulate thought about the time and place", especially resonates with me.

That is why I collect, because I love history and sport. Not to make a fortune, not with the faint hope that I will uncover some major treasure, not to keep score or have the most 'toys'...but to make small connections to history.

I recently bought a large lot of Cornell ephemera pulled from an early scrapbook for $10, about 50 pieces. All scrap and of little value, but I like digging through lots like this. Out of the lot I pulled this "Admit One Armory, Nov. 29, 1906" ticket. It had little meaning until I discovered what it was for. It was issued to listen to the wire reports of the 1906 Cornell/Penn football game. You can see it in the picture below, along with some of the other scraps.

The ticket is of a little value, but to tie it to what was going on that day, I find deeply rewarding. Reading this article about the wire reports from the Armory...they sold 2,000 tickets..cheerleaders directed the singing....chairs only for woman and faculty...and experienced wire operators. Consider the unimaginable technology available to us today to watch football wherever and however we want.

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Joe, that's an exceptional pickup for $10. C'mon!

[EYECOLLECTVINTAGE]

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector

I couldn't agree more. Dave's comment on.."stimulate thought about the time and place", especially resonates with me.

That is why I collect, because I love history and sport. Not to make a fortune, not with the faint hope that I will uncover some major treasure, not to keep score or have the most 'toys'...but to make small connections to history.

I recently bought a large lot of Cornell ephemera pulled from an early scrapbook for $10, about 50 pieces. All scrap and of little value, but I like digging through lots like this. Out of the lot I pulled this "Admit One Armory, Nov. 29, 1906" ticket. It had little meaning until I discovered what it was for. It was issued to listen to the wire reports of the 1906 Cornell/Penn football game. You can see it in the picture below, along with some of the other scraps.

The ticket is of a little value, but to tie it to what was going on that day, I find deeply rewarding. Reading this article about the wire reports from the Armory...they sold 2,000 tickets..cheerleaders directed the singing....chairs only for woman and faculty...and experienced wire operators. Consider the unimaginable technology available to us today to watch football wherever and however we want.

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Great post and well said. We are all one big team in the grand scheme of the hobby. Without us there would be no
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[Fuddjcal]

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is this thing worth anything?

[shernan30]

Any good place to find tickets and programs from the tennis grand slams? I'm working on a Roger Federer project for my wife and need to track down some of those items.

Thanks,

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

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is this thing worth anything?

one recently sold on ebay for &75 but that included two tickets program and news clipping that one seemed to be in better condition but its hard to tell
I would be a buyer at $50 plus $5 for shipping
pm me if interested in doing a deal
thanks
David

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by megalimey

one recently sold on ebay for &75 but that included two tickets program and news clipping that one seemed to be in better condition but its hard to tell
I would be a buyer at $50 plus $5 for shipping
pm me if interested in doing a deal
thanks
David

Thanks for the info Mega, Much appreciated

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by Fuddjcal

Thanks for the info Mega, Much appreciated

just out of curiosity did you want to sell it ??

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by Dave Grob

With respect to tickets, I may be a bit of a contrarian in that I would prefer a stub to a full unused ticket. I have very few tickets, less than a couple of dozen in my collection, but part of the allure for me is the connection to the event. Yes I know the full ones look great slabbed (so some might say) and command more money, but to me an unused ticket is an object without any relevance…

For me, ticket stubs and scorecards provide contextual enhancement to other items in my collection. Probably the best example I can think of is I have a 1940 World Series Game 7 ticket stub, Pouge’s Department Store scorecard (sold outside the gate) and an original team mailing envelope for World Series tickets in a small display with Paul Derringer’s 1940 World Series cap. Does including these other items with the cap change or enhance the value in any appreciable manner? Maybe not, but as group they enhance the visual appeal of the main artifact (Derringer cap) and stimulate thought about the time and place.

Dave Grob

actually if you notice some of the full stubs have holes punched this was done at the turn stiles as a special accommodation of a fans request who wanted the whole ticket as a memento , also complimentary tickets were also so punched and could not be exchanged if there was a rain out
so these tickets in fact would have been presented at day of game and ticket owner would have been present at the game with full ticket in tow

[Huysmans]

Originally Posted by megalimey

actually if you notice some of the full stubs have holes punched this was done at the turn stiles as a special accommodation of a fans request who wanted the whole ticket as a memento , also complimentary tickets were also so punched and could not be exchanged if there was a rain out
so these tickets in fact would have been presented at day of game and ticket owner would have been present at the game with full ticket in tow

I could be wrong, but there's certain years of the World Series where no tickets were perforated or "ripped" upon admission, with all tickets hole punched instead. I believe the 1911 Series is an example. What I don't understand, is people calling these "full" tickets. Despite remaining complete, with no section torn away, the hole punch should still classify the ticket as a "stub". Or am I missing something?

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by Huysmans

I could be wrong, but there's certain years of the World Series where no tickets were perforated or "ripped" upon admission, with all tickets hole punched instead. I believe the 1911 Series is an example. What I don't understand, is people calling these "full" tickets. Despite remaining complete, with no section torn away, the hole punch should still classify the ticket as a "stub". Or am I missing something?

as long as the ticket is fully intact with both sections raincheck untorn it is regarded as a full ticket and not a stub
it is not unusual to see some full tickets whole punched which was done to
accommodate a fans wishes or given as a complimentary no cash value , the holes prevented reentry or resale in the event of a rain out , so very few people did this

[icollectDCsports]

Originally Posted by megalimey

as long as the ticket is fully intact with both sections raincheck untorn it is regarded as a full ticket and not a stub
it is not unusual to see some full tickets whole punched which was done to
accommodate a fans wishes or given as a complimentary no cash value , the holes prevented reentry or resale in the event of a rain out , so very few people did this

I'd classify a ticket that's punched and has no section torn off as "full" and therefore not a stub but I'd additionally classify it as "used." So a full or complete, unused ticket would be different than a full or complete ticket that we know was used because it was hole punched.

[megalimey]

Originally Posted by icollectDCsports

I'd classify a ticket that's punched and has no section torn off as "full" and therefore not a stub but I'd additionally classify it as "used." So a full or complete, unused ticket would be different than a full or complete ticket that we know was used because it was hole punched.

your correct it would be classed as a used full ticket verses one that was found at some ones house who never went to the game IE: "no show" BUT INCLUDED in the paid attendance

[icollectDCsports]

Originally Posted by megalimey

your correct it would be classed as a used full ticket verses one that was found at some ones house who never went to the game IE: "no show" BUT INCLUDED in the paid attendance

Yes but full tickets that have neither been torn nor punched nor marked MAY also never have been sold and therefore never in the hands of fans. Alternatively, I know that some untorn tickets were in the pockets of some people at games because they were let into the stadium via nonpublic entrances. I can think of some nice, complete, and vintage WS tickets that exist in this state because a particular player's family never had their tickets taken. So, we don't always know the circumstances of such tickets.

In any event, I think complete and unused tickets do have a special place in collecting, even if they likely weren't present at games. I consider them souvenirs of a team, whereas used tickets are souvenirs of the game.