Dan McKee is a Star

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Looks like the value of this card just fell off a cliff.

http://jewishbaseballmuseum.com/spot...idered-jewish/

Grapes soured at all there?

"Meanwhile, I contacted the National Baseball Hall of Fame Library, which maintains a file of player biographical information filled out either by the ballplayers or family members. Under “ancestry,” Mrs. E.W. Talley had written “German-Jew” on Guy Zinn’s profile page. Jean Talley was Zinn’s daughter. The form was filled out after Zinn’s death in 1949."

Zinn's daughter wrote he was Jewish on the record for the HOF? That is pretty solid evidence.

His death certificate [http://thedeadballera.com/DeathCerti...nn.Guy.DC.pdf] lists his father as Noah Zinn.

Odds are his father was Jewish ahd his kids considered themselves Jewish, if that is what she wrote.

His grave isn't of use; he's buried in a non-denominational graveyard in WV.

The rest is speculation.

I guess if Dan had sold the card for $10,000 Zinn would have been Jewish...

[Snapolit1]

Sour grapes? No, just received an interesting news artilcle in my in box today. High stakes collecting is all about economics so I find this stuff interesting. Seems like you have a dog in the fight somewhere. I certainly don't.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Sour grapes? No, just received an interesting news artilcle in my in box today. High stakes collecting is all about economics so I find this stuff interesting. Seems like you have a dog in the fight somewhere. I certainly don't.

Not you, Steve, the buyer who took Zinn off his web site after he backed out of the deal on the card, my point being that since he couldn't get the card he decided to toss Zinn off the list, which reeks of sour grapes.

Interesting that the buyer made his money in real estate; that may explain his conduct. When I handle commercial transactions for clients buyers usually try to reduce the price after the deal is signed by denigrating the condition of the property during the due diligence period. Some go so far as to make the deal at whatever price they can fully aware that they will renegotiate after inspections and cancel if they cannot get a sufficient price reduction. It appears this buyer tried to do the same thing with the card.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I guess if Dan had sold the card for $10,000 Zinn would have been Jewish...

+1

[mark evans]

I'm inclined to agree with Adam on this. But, note factual confusion. Adam assumes Zinn's father to be Jewish and that Zinn considered himself Jewish based upon daughter's statement to HOF. But, Bob Wechsler's article states that both Zinn parents were Christians. If so, then I assume Zinn would have needed to go through some formal conversion process to become Jewish.

Can anyone provide me Bob's e-mail address so that I might follow up?

Mark

[Leon]

Originally Posted by mark evans

.... If so, then I assume Zinn would have needed to go through some formal conversion process to become Jewish.

..

Mark

Was Zinn circumcised?

[autograf]

Oy vey......what a mess......

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Leon

Was Zinn circumcised?

What do you think a PSA/DNA graded Zinn foreskin would go for?

[Republicaninmass]

Originally Posted by Leon

Was Zinn circumcised?

Of Yes, I'm sincerely hoping he got 10% off the top

[oaks1912]

Maybe Guy Zinn's daughter was named Elaine...?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGIgnscRz6Q

[tim]

Steve,
I don't think Adam's "sour grapes" remark was directed at you. If I read him right, he's commenting on the fact that the article on Zinn not being Jewish appears on the Jewish Baseball Website. This website, according to the New York Times article, was created by Mr. Aeder, the prospective buyer of the card.
--Tim

[Snapolit1]

Thanks. I surmised that there was probably more going on here that I knew about.

[ramram]

Originally Posted by tim

Steve,
I don't think Adam's "sour grapes" remark was directed at you. If I read him right, he's commenting on the fact that the article on Zinn not being Jewish appears on the Jewish Baseball Website. This website, according to the New York Times article, was created by Mr. Aeder, the prospective buyer of the card.
--Tim

Whoa! That's just a minor clarification. Things just got (more) interesting.

Rob M

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by tim

Steve,
I don't think Adam's "sour grapes" remark was directed at you. If I read him right, he's commenting on the fact that the article on Zinn not being Jewish appears on the Jewish Baseball Website. This website, according to the New York Times article, was created by Mr. Aeder, the prospective buyer of the card.
--Tim

Bingo..... Man you people are not as dumb as I look

[slidekellyslide]

Zinn's daughter filled out his HOF form in 1949 and listed him as "Jewish". That's rock solid to me. She would have no reason to lie, and she IMO being directly related to him and having I assume lived with him for probably the first 18-20 years of her life might know something about him.

This is 100% sour grapes.

[Bestdj777]

Originally Posted by slidekellyslide

Zinn's daughter filled out his HOF form in 1949 and listed him as "Jewish". That's rock solid to me. She would have no reason to lie, and she IMO being directly related to him and having I assume lived with him for probably the first 18-20 years of her life might know something about him.

This is 100% sour grapes.

You trust his daughter over some unidentified woman who did "extensive" research on ancestory.com?

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Leon

Was Zinn circumcised?

Classic!

[danmckee]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

Grapes soured at all there?

"Meanwhile, I contacted the National Baseball Hall of Fame Library, which maintains a file of player biographical information filled out either by the ballplayers or family members. Under “ancestry,” Mrs. E.W. Talley had written “German-Jew” on Guy Zinn’s profile page. Jean Talley was Zinn’s daughter. The form was filled out after Zinn’s death in 1949."

Zinn's daughter wrote he was Jewish on the record for the HOF? That is pretty solid evidence.

His death certificate [http://thedeadballera.com/DeathCerti...nn.Guy.DC.pdf] lists his father as Noah Zinn.

Odds are his father was Jewish ahd his kids considered themselves Jewish, if that is what she wrote.

His grave isn't of use; he's buried in a non-denominational graveyard in WV.

The rest is speculation.

I guess if Dan had sold the card for $10,000 Zinn would have been Jewish...

I had nothing to do with him being Jewish, and could care less either way as I collect the Baltimore News Schedule cards.

You people are way to into the value part of the hobby, I have refused tons of money for cards that I will never be able to sell later for the same amount.

Dan Mckee

[MartyFromCANADA]

Originally Posted by danmckee

You people are way to into the value part of the hobby, I have refused tons of money for cards that I will never be able to sell later for the same amount.

Dan Mckee

I can attest to this statement. He has some sweet Gibson candy cards. Won't sell