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Old 01-11-2019, 05:02 PM
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The 'problem' with Mickey Mantle overall is his stature within the collecting world and his eminence in the non-baseball community as a whole. He simply exists in his own universe. The point being, no matter what card you look for (say, on ebay), it's going to be way overpriced (as compared to other HOF'ers from his era). You have to dig, dig, dig to find anything priced even nearly 'accurately.' (I'm sure with lower conditioned cards, it's not as ridiculous, but still.) So, you have to add that reality to the equation, and it becomes, "Do you want to overpay for quantity or do you want to severely overpay for quality?"
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:31 PM
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For me when collecting Mick I go with the lower grade cards that I enjoy looking at on a regular basis. Having said that I do collect high grade cards of Johnny Bench.

I think you have to go with what you will enjoy looking at on a regular basis. For me I would rather look at many lower grade Micks instead of 1 or 2 high grade Micks. Here is a sampling of some of my low grade cards that I thoroughly enjoy looking at on a regular basis.

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To collect quantity or quality?

My budget doesn't allow for higher-end cards on the regular. It would take time to get a 2-400 card. With that said:


Is it better to save for those higher priced cards or collect the lower end graded cards?

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As many have said, it all is about which cards call to you, which you want to enjoy looking at. You can't go wrong as long as your cards please your eye— and a great thing about Mantles is that his cards in any grade are so liquid, you can always pivot.

I collect pretty much only Mantle, and I have found great specimens all across the grading spectrum. Here are some examples that illustrate how we can get nice Mantles at various grades, though it can take a fun and rewarding— and long— hunt to land those diamonds in the rough. These cover from 2.5-6.5 grades...

And JB, those are truly GORGEOUS! Centering, color, image quality, those are some carefully chosen Micks.












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Old 01-12-2019, 12:44 AM
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Thank you all for the comments, advice, knowledge and the time you took to respond. A lot of good stuff to read in here and several things to take with me...

This is what I have so far.



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[quote=MattyC;1844553]Hi David,

As many have said, it all is about which cards call to you, which you want to enjoy looking at. You can't go wrong as long as your cards please your eye— and a great thing about Mantles is that his cards in any grade are so liquid, you can always pivot.

I collect pretty much only Mantle, and I have found great specimens all across the grading spectrum. Here are some examples that illustrate how we can get nice Mantles at various grades, though it can take a fun and rewarding— and long— hunt to land those diamonds in the rough. These cover from 2.5-6.5 grades...

And JB, those are truly GORGEOUS! Centering, color, image quality, those are some carefully chosen Micks.



Thanks MattyC. Love that 53 Bowman. I remember when you were offering it up for sale and wish I would have jumped on it back then. I never get tired of looking at your Mick collection.
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:47 AM
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Hi David,

As many have said, it all is about which cards call to you, which you want to enjoy looking at. You can't go wrong as long as your cards please your eye— and a great thing about Mantles is that his cards in any grade are so liquid, you can always pivot.

I collect pretty much only Mantle, and I have found great specimens all across the grading spectrum. Here are some examples that illustrate how we can get nice Mantles at various grades, though it can take a fun and rewarding— and long— hunt to land those diamonds in the rough. These cover from 2.5-6.5 grades...

And JB, those are truly GORGEOUS! Centering, color, image quality, those are some carefully chosen Micks.












Nice cherry picking Matty. Those are some BEAUTIFUL looking Mantles. That 2.5 Bowman is STUNNING.
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I find the opposite to be true for the vast majority of cards. Sure, HOFers in high grade normally rise, but high grade commons in some sets have plummeted. Check the thread I created when PSA came out with their Auction Prices Realized tool; the 1952 PSA 8-9s that averaged $10,000 in 2008 or so sold for $2,000 each in 2010.
I think there's more financial upside in oddball and rare issues, personally. We still haven't had a stock market crash in 10 years. So maybe the best plan for a new collector who hasn't decided yet is to save up money when collectors liquidate during a crash?

I'd have to wonder why that happened. Did the high prices bring out a lot of nice cards for grading? Or did the few people who could afford to try for a 52 set in 8-9 complete sets or give up? 8-9 I'd think is primarily a registry competition thing and once the few really tough cards are locked up in a couple collections the competition that drove prices stops.


I'm nowhere near on that league, so even at 2,000 they wouldn't fall into the "best I can afford" category.

I was thinking more along the lines of whether I wait for a 5 or buy a 4 now. Or maybe even take a chance on a nice looking card and send it in myself. (Or just buying it and not bothering with grading)
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I'd have to wonder why that happened. Did the high prices bring out a lot of nice cards for grading? Or did the few people who could afford to try for a 52 set in 8-9 complete sets or give up? 8-9 I'd think is primarily a registry competition thing and once the few really tough cards are locked up in a couple collections the competition that drove prices stops.


I'm nowhere near on that league, so even at 2,000 they wouldn't fall into the "best I can afford" category.

I was thinking more along the lines of whether I wait for a 5 or buy a 4 now. Or maybe even take a chance on a nice looking card and send it in myself. (Or just buying it and not bothering with grading)
The reason some cards are or were low pop purely had to do with centering. I suspect that when the demand became really high from ego-driven registry guys, people either pressured PSA to give some borderline cards 8s, and/or trimmed and got some through. And as supply increased, prices eventually came down to earth. That, plus set collecting seems generally to have dropped at least in high grades.
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Thank you all for the comments, advice, knowledge and the time you took to respond. A lot of good stuff to read in here and several things to take with me...

This is what I have so far.



David, those are absolutely acceptable Micks. Both notorious for centering issues. That 61 is clean and bright. I have an 8oc and 4 of that. And the 58...very nice centering. I have a straight 6 of that one that is still oc and would rather have your 4.
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Agree; that 4 of the 58 All Star is a really pretty example that certainly hits the eye as much better than the grade. The centering and focus draw the eye in. Great acquisition.
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