Hey, pennant guys

[ooo-ribay]

^^^^ The Sox holding bats are terrible.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

^^^^ The Sox holding bats are terrible.

The Red Sox in particular looks like a little dude who is … um … a little too happy.

[ser1979]

OK, did anyone in this group have faster fingers then me? Was in the middle of driving and trying to make an offer on this and then it was gone. Think the listing lasted maybe 15 min.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/36418379374...p2047675.l2557

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ser1979

OK, did anyone in this group have faster fingers then me? Was in the middle of driving and trying to make an offer on this and then it was gone. Think the listing lasted maybe 15 min.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/36418379374...p2047675.l2557

Somebody got a good buy. Probably "round white table guy".

[Bumpus Jones]

Lol!

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Somebody got a good buy. Probably "round white table guy".

You mean "round white table, one picture, no description" guy?

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by ser1979

OK, did anyone in this group have faster fingers then me? Was in the middle of driving and trying to make an offer on this and then it was gone. Think the listing lasted maybe 15 min.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/36418379374...p2047675.l2557

If you're looking for Tigers, this one is still out there. Too bad he doesn't have OBO on it but the price isn't terrible.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/36418370289...mis&media=COPY

[ser1979]

Rob,

I noticed that along with the 39 tiger pennant. I need both for my collection and trying to see if he will do a package deal.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Somebody got a good buy. Probably "round white table guy".

Don’t know what the offer was but I’d say $175 or so was about right given the condition (cracking, torn tip). You think more? It is a tough WGN pennant. I’d guess $300 in good condition for sure. I love how they have so many dated pennants.

You’ll recall there is a Tigers seller who has flipped after making initially undisclosed repairs … keep an eye out.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ser1979

Rob,

I noticed that along with the 39 tiger pennant. I need both for my collection and trying to see if he will do a package deal.

The ‘52 looks odd in the sleeve. Could be trimmed. If you consider, ask for length, should be a hair over 28” +/-

[ser1979]

Greg,

I know the seller you are talking about. He's just on the other side of Michigan about 2 1/2 hours away from me. I have him saved as seller so I always know what he has out there. He's the type of guy who wins an auction then as soon as he gets it relists it for about 30% more then what he paid.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ser1979

Greg,

I know the seller you are talking about. He's just on the other side of Michigan about 2 1/2 hours away from me. I have him saved as seller so I always know what he has out there. He's the type of guy who wins an auction then as soon as he gets it relists it for about 30% more then what he paid.

Yeah he has sone nice pennants, albeit priced very high. The Tigers-in-the-infield pennant was beautiful with only a detached tassel issue, it was relisted a week after initial sale with a glue fix. That wasn’t cool. At least he discloses it now.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ser1979

Greg,

I know the seller you are talking about. He's just on the other side of Michigan about 2 1/2 hours away from me. I have him saved as seller so I always know what he has out there. He's the type of guy who wins an auction then as soon as he gets it relists it for about 30% more then what he paid.

Stephen, since you’re a Tigers collector, what are your favorites? Do you have pics?

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by thetahat

Don’t know what the offer was but I’d say $175 or so was about right given the condition (cracking, torn tip). You think more? It is a tough WGN pennant. I’d guess $300 in good condition for sure. I love how they have so many dated pennants.

You’ll recall there is a Tigers seller who has flipped after making initially undisclosed repairs … keep an eye out.

Greg, looks like it was sold for $175, $15 below the BIN. I'm always surprised when sellers accept a lower price so quickly since offers are valid for 24 hours. Why not wait a bit and see if you get full price? I wonder if when making the offer the buyer says the bid will be rescinded if not accepted quickly.

Rick

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

If you're looking for Tigers, this one is still out there. Too bad he doesn't have OBO on it but the price isn't terrible.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/36418370289...mis&media=COPY

Both of those Tigers are sweet. On this one, I noticed none of the six pictures show the tip.

[rlevy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Both of those Tigers are sweet. On this one, I noticed none of the six pictures show the tip.

Yeah, the seller says in the description that a 11/2" piece is missing, and I assume that must be the tip, which isn't pictured. Since they don't accept returns, it would probably be difficult to get your money back if dissatisfied under the eBay Money Back Guarantee since the listing mentions the flaw. I know there are complaints about "round white table guy" and his lack of pictures, but at least he accepts returns.

Rick

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Both of those Tigers are sweet. On this one, I noticed none of the six pictures show the tip.

Here’s the ‘52 Tigers in another color. Tigers did pennants right

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Greg, looks like it was sold for $175, $15 below the BIN. I'm always surprised when sellers accept a lower price so quickly since offers are valid for 24 hours. Why not wait a bit and see if you get full price? I wonder if when making the offer the buyer says the bid will be rescinded if not accepted quickly.

Rick

Rick, interesting. Yes, bidders can pull offers at any time. I think in this case the $175 was a fair price and he may have figured that a bird in the hand …

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

Both of those Tigers are sweet. On this one, I noticed none of the six pictures show the tip.

Yeah... I would ask before buying. But he did mention a piece of the top tassel was gone, so I'm guessing he'd have mentioned a problem with the tip if there was one.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by rlevy

Yeah, the seller says in the description that a 11/2" piece is missing, and I assume that must be the tip, which isn't pictured. Since they don't accept returns, it would probably be difficult to get your money back if dissatisfied under the eBay Money Back Guarantee since the listing mentions the flaw. I know there are complaints about "round white table guy" and his lack of pictures, but at least he accepts returns.

Rick

The 1.5" piece he's talking about is the top tassel. There's wayward punctuation in the description that makes it a little confusing.

And it's never difficult to get your money back on ebay if you choose "not as described". It's 100% guaranteed.

[Bumpus Jones]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

You mean "round white table, one picture, no description" guy?

yeah, that guy

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Yeah... I would ask before buying. But he did mention a piece of the top tassel was gone, so I'm guessing he'd have mentioned a problem with the tip if there was one.

Here's the tip, for anyone who's considering bidding. Not horrible, but probably 3/8" to 1/2 inch missing.

It's kind of cool in green felt. Hope this is helpful.

[ser1979]

Greg,

Here are a few pics of some of my favorite Tiger pennants I have. I agree, the Tigers did pennants right.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by ser1979

Greg,

Here are a few pics of some of my favorite Tiger pennants I have. I agree, the Tigers did pennants right.

Those are some beauties. Is the 1934 American League Champs more of a silk than felt?

[ser1979]

Yes its silk. It rolls up and slides into a metal tube that turns it into a cane. There are two versions of this pennant. The one I have has Cochrane's name spelled correctly. The only bad thing about it is trying to display it since it wont fit in a normal sleeve. I just have it hanging from the wall in a corner of my office for now.

[thetahat]

These are fantastic. I especially like the ‘46. Super duper tough pennant.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by ser1979

Yes its silk. It rolls up and slides into a metal tube that turns it into a cane. There are two versions of this pennant. The one I have has Cochrane's name spelled correctly. The only bad thing about it is trying to display it since it wont fit in a normal sleeve. I just have it hanging from the wall in a corner of my office for now.

That’s beautiful. I’ll bet not even Mark Steinberg has one.

[ser1979]

Mark prob has both versions, lol

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by ser1979

Mark prob has both versions, lol

I have the "correct spelling" Cane Pennant, but not the other, haha.

As for the 1946 with names surrounding the Tiger's Head... I had a gorgeous golden one with white graphics. But traded it in a deal that brought me a scarce Reds Pennant. It was one of the toughest trades I've ever made, as I knew I'd probably never encounter that pennant again (let alone see a pennant representing any team with that rich golden felt).

Greg is spot on about its scarcity, and congrats to Stephen for having that beauty. The fellow I traded with does frequent this forum, but rarely posts here. Perhaps he can throw up a photo of it, as it really is a sight to behold.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I have the "correct spelling" Cane Pennant, but not the other, haha.

What was I thinking!?!? :face_palm:

[UKCardGuy]

Those Tigers pennants are fantastic. They look so nice all together.

[bocca001]

Fballguy and I were talking the other day about how cameras on iphones (and probably other phones as well) are making it difficult to tell when pennants are stained or faded. If I really want my pennants to look bright, I can take a photo inside my house, in the later afternoon, with the lights off and the iphone magically makes the pennant look bright and great.

But it has been an issue for buying pennants, especially white pennants. Both of the pennants below are harder to find than you might think, especially in decent shapte. Both looked white in auction photos. Both were yellowish when they arrived. Luckily Oxyclean works very well on these. I have them pictured next to a pennant that I accidentally left in oxyclean overnight. That pennant did get very white, and the black graphics were unharmed, but the orange was damaged. So, I was not able to get these new ones "overnight white", but they do look much better now. I don't think that sellers were intentionally trying to make these look spectacular when they sold (neither was expensive at all). The phones just automatically make them look better in many situations.

[Fballguy]

Nice improvement! I think we just invented a new color for Benjamin Moore..."Overnight White". Great for Laundry Rooms and Doctor's Offices.

While we're on the subject of more modern pennants...What term are we using for the material that these 1970s-90s pennants are made of?

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Nice improvement! I think we just invented a new color for Benjamin Moore..."Overnight White". Great for Laundry Rooms and Doctor's Offices.

While we're on the subject of more modern pennants...What term are we using for the material that these 1970s-90s pennants are made of?

I prefer "polyester" or "guillotine blade" because you can decapitate someone with one of those pennants if you're not careful.

[Fballguy]

Originally Posted by perezfan

I prefer "polyester" or "guillotine blade" because you can decapitate someone with one of those pennants if you're not careful.

I think you're onto something Mark. You can definitely lose an eye if you're not careful. Guillotine blades or maybe..."Snake Plisskens"?

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by perezfan

Here's the tip, for anyone who's considering bidding. Not horrible, but probably 3/8" to 1/2 inch missing. It's kind of cool in green felt. Hope this is helpful.

Nice pennant, but I'd definitely be looking for some kind of adjustment if I got that with that much tip missing without mention or depiction among all those photos.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by ser1979

Greg, Here are a few pics of some of my favorite Tiger pennants I have. I agree, the Tigers did pennants right.

Amazing collection!

[perezfan]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Nice pennant, but I'd definitely be looking for some kind of adjustment if I got that with that much tip missing without mention or depiction among all those photos.

Completely agree. He needed to include the tip in the provided pics, or (at a minimum) mention it in the description.

[UKCardGuy]

New arrival today. That makes 9 ASG Pennants. This was was auctioned already in the frame just to make my life a little easier

Apart from a tack hole near the tip, the condition is pretty nice.

[thetahat]

Originally Posted by UKCardGuy

New arrival today. That makes 9 ASG Pennants. This was was auctioned already in the frame just to make my life a little easier

Apart from a tack hole near the tip, the condition is pretty nice.

Very nice! This is, to the best of my knowledge, the oldest of the Trench stadium/scroll ASG pennants. In ‘57 they depicted Busch Stadium but no scroll. And I think they have one older with a scroll of starters but not ballpark. They had a good run from ‘58 through … ? 1963?

There are other non-Trench ASG scroll pennants of course but these are the nicest.

[thetahat]

To continue on ASG pennants … I don’t know of any Trenches for the ‘60 game at Yankee stadium nor 1964 at Shea. My hypothesis is that a local NY non-trench company made these. 1965 was ASCO (Minneapolis) and 1961 in Boston was Keezer. (None of these are mine.)

[ser1979]

Latest pickup and cleaning project. Was able to snag this one off ebay the other day and gave it a few rounds of retro clean. The first round was only 5 minuets in the solution. Second round was 10 minuets and the final round was 15 minuets. I played it safe and only used 3-4 tablespoons of retro to 1 gallon of warm water. I kept a close eye on the lettering and tiger the entire time to make sure it didn't start to crack or flake off. As you can see by the picture of the water after the first soak the pennant was really dirty. Overall I'm happy with the results and will quit while I'm ahead. On a side note this is one of my favorite designs the Tigers did using this style tiger. I have several other pennants that use this same tiger.

[Fballguy]

Nice work Stephen. That's a gutsy move. Don't think I've tried cleaning anything that old. Good to know the water and/or RC doesn't harm the graphics.

Seeing that pic of the water gives me an idea. To enter the fraternity of hunters, one drinks the blood of their first kill. To enter the fraternity of pennant collectors, should we have to drink pennant water? Or maybe just draw a cross with it on the newbie's forehead? Thoughts?

[Fballguy]

Haven't posted a new pick up here in a long time. I watched this thing cycle through ebay a few times and was just floored by the lack of interest. Finally, it got to the point that I couldn't not buy it. $48.26 with tax and shipping for a 100 year old Ivy League pennant? 35" Long. This thing should be selling for hundreds not tens. I don't understand it. You'd think pennants would appeal to Ivy Leaguers of all people...but not so much.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by Fballguy

Haven't posted a new pick up here in a long time. I watched this thing cycle through ebay a few times and was just floored by the lack of interest. Finally, it got to the point that I couldn't not buy it. $48.26 with tax and shipping for a 100 year old Ivy League pennant? 35" Long. This thing should be selling for hundreds not tens. I don't understand it. You'd think pennants would appeal to Ivy Leaguers of all people...but not so much.

Wow, what a beauty! And yes, where are the Yalies who should die to have this hanging in their law office? I picked this one up for $20, the only one going for it, and I had to wonder where all the other Amherst football players were. Ever seen another of these, Rob?

[Fballguy]

I love that style. I have not seen an Amherst version before. I have a few...Boston College, Holy Cross, Boston Latin. I'm starting to feel it might have been a Massachusetts maker? There is a Fordham out there too.

What a deal for $20.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Wow, what a beauty! And yes, where are the Yalies who should die to have this hanging in their law office? I picked this one up for $20, the only one going for it, and I had to wonder where all the other other Amherst football players were. Ever seen another of these, Rob?

An Amherst nodder just sold in the last nodderexchange auction for $3791

It was basically just just any other college nodder but with an “Amherst” decal.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

An Amherst nodder just sold in the last nodderexchange auction for $3791 It was basically just just any other college nodder but with an “Amherst” decal.

Incredible! Was it a football player? I couldn't find it on the site, but they don't have pictures of the auction listings anyway. That's mind-boggling.

[Fballguy]

Run of the mill 1970s Double Bar Saints pennant but in it's original packaging.

Drumroll for the maker...

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"APSCO"

What is APSCO? Did ASCO become APSCO? Google APSCO now and you get hydraulic valve actuators.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/30485127452...mis&media=COPY

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

Incredible! Was it a football player? I couldn't find it on the site, but they don't have pictures of the auction listings anyway. That's mind-boggling.

#28 on this page (scroll down). No picture. Yes, just your basic 1960’s football nodder.

http://www.nodderexchange.com/