Photo ID Help Needed -- Minneapolis Millers?

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Posted By: RobertS

Hi all--

This photo is being represented as the Minneapolis team of the old American Association. I have been looking at old team logos, photos of Nicollet Park, etc. in an attempt to corroborate this claim.

Any thoughts out there as to whether the ID is correct?



Thanks!

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Posted By: jay behrens

Is there a studio name on the cabinet? Doesn't look like any Millers logos I've seen, but then again, I haven't seen them all. It would also be good to know where the phot came from, i.e. a family that lived in Minneapolis in the era, etc

Jay

I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: Mike campbell

Stew Thornley of the local SABR group in the Twin Cities wrote a book a while back called "On to Nicolett"The Glory and fame of the Minneapolis Millers". Available in Amazon I believe. I suppose your only hope on this would be to pick up the book, and see if you can find matching uni's, hats, faces etc. etc. I used to be in that SABR group with Stew, and I can assure you, the book will be informative, and accurate. As Stew is a stickler for detail. I haven't read this book. I should have, but just didn't. I probably will now...Good Luck

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Posted By: jay behrens

Very true, when it xomes to MN baseball, it doesn't get any better than Stew.

Jay

I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: RobertS

I've been to his Web site and it doesn't have any photos. Unfortunately, by the time I could get the book from Amazon, I think the photo will be gone...!

I will probably buy it anyway....

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Posted By: steve f

BTW, Your photo's in terrific condition.

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Posted By: davidcycleback

I'm no Minneapolis Millers expert, but, offhand, I would think an important minor league team would have more players. The MLB team used the Millers to train and test the talent. I've seen a few Millers team photos over the years, and they were always posed formally, like a Major League team, on the field or in the stands.

The Millers were essentially a AAA team, next step was the bigs, and had loads of future Hall of Famers and stars over the years (Rube Waddell, Campanella, Mays, Ted Williams, Ray Dandridge, Carl Yastremski, Hoy Wilhelm etc etc). There likely were future MLB payers in most to all team photos.

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Posted By: jay behrens

You forgot McCovey and Cepeda I used to ahve a run of Millers and Saints team photos from 1930-60. They came from a former umpire who used to work the Millers and Saints games. The 1951 photo I had did not feature Mays as the photos weres give aways for the radio picture day sponsored by the radio braodcaster. Mays only played early in the year.

This is the only one I still have a scan of. The ones featuring Dandridge, McCovey, Yaz and Williams were all signed. The sigs were obtained by me, not the original owner.



Jay

I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: fkw

Couple of pictures I found on internet.


Milers logos 1906-1950



Millers team ca.1910 (away uniforms?)

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Posted By: Bob Pomilla

Jeez. Has to be the strangest tale in the Miller's history.

http://stewthornley.net/millers_havana.html

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Posted By: RobertS

The number of players is also causing me to think twice, David, but then I saw the photo also posted above by Frank.

For me the setting is troublesome -- you typically see school teams posed outdoors on steps like this.

In sum: I'm waiting for more answers from the seller (non-eBay) before I pull the trigger, even though the price is low.

Thanks for all the help so far, guys...

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Posted By: jay behrens

The other thing that worries me is that I can't recall seeing a uniform that had just an M logo. They always seemed to have unis with Minneapolis on it.

Jay

I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: RobertS

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Posted By: jay behrens

I didn't even notice the sig at first and was going to say it looks like a young Ted Williams in a Millers uniform

Jay

I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: David Smith

Williams looks feminine and/or Asian in that photo.


David

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Posted By: Mike campbell

Naw...he looks more like a guy who had the potential to hit .406. Miss three years of his prime time, and still hit, oh I don't know, maybe about 521 home runs....looks like he could be a star. No steriods....and he was patriotic. Let's take a chance on him. I think he'll work out just fine.

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Posted By: jay behrens

He's pretty skinny though. Bulking up might do him some good

Jay

I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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Posted By: Max Weder

David

Ted Williams' mother was of mexican descent, with her parents from Mexico.

Max

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Posted By: Robert S

Now, according to the seller, he made the identification of the original photo I posted becasue the following is written on the back of the photo: "Lake Case, MN"

Hmmmmm.....