1948 Leaf Satchel Paige - blank back - on eBay....

[Zact]

Yes I see that *3402 was the underbidder at $375 on the 53 Paige-take it for what it’s worth- maybe you paid more than you had to

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Zact

Yes I see that *3402 was the underbidder at $375 on the 53 Paige-take it for what it’s worth- maybe you paid more than you had to

Yes, they paid more than they had to. I don't see $380 there. I will look at the bidding history and see what transppired.

[PiratesWS1979]

You could be right, I might have paid a whole $25 more for a nicely centered '53 Paige. The point is there is shill bidding all over eBay as proof by the 100's of threads about it from PWCC to probstein123 to any seller who has a string bidder.

Meenman came on here to explain the Leaf Paige blank back and hopefully took your advice and is having it authenticated. Now you have gone for "leaving money on the table" to he's a shill bidder. After 20 years and 17,000+ feedback, he is just defending himself because I am 99% positive his business has never been abused like this.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by PiratesWS1979

You could be right, I might have paid a whole $25 more for a nicely centered '53 Paige. The point is there is shill bidding all over eBay as proof by the 100's of threads about it from PWCC to probstein123 to any seller who has a string bidder.

Meenman came on here to explain the Leaf Paige blank back and hopefully took your advice and is having it authenticated. Now you have gone for "leaving money on the table" to he's a shill bidder. After 20 years and 17,000+ feedback, he is just defending himself because I am 99% positive his business has never been abused like this.

Actually, to me, that is not the point. I don't think the seller is shilling. I just think he probably has some bidders playing games and it looks bad. He could block them to alleviate it. Do we need to do another poll of how many honest people have 4 bid retractions in 6 months? That number would be close to 0.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Leon

Actually, to me, that is not the point. I don't think the seller is shilling. I just think he probably has some bidders playing games and it looks bad. He could block them to alleviate it. Do we need to do another poll of how many honest people have 4 bid retractions in 6 months? That number would be close to 0.

I've never had a bid retraction, and the only auction I never paid for was where I was a victim of a bid retractor within the last hour of an auction, who ironically, another had bid me up to my max and not a penny more. I passed. And technically, if you retract a bid, you are "supposed" to bid the correct amount immediately after the retraction. That seldom happens though.

[Zact]

The integrity of your card auctions is compromised. You need to suspend the bidder u***g (3402). This bidder retracted a bid for $350 on your 1950 Bowman Berra. Then, you allowed him to string bid this card back up to $187.50, a day later, after the retraction. This bidder has demonstrated suspicious activity on multiple items, that violates Ebay TOS, and its your responsibility to take control of your brand.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Zact

The integrity of your card auctions is compromised. You need to suspend the bidder u***g (3402). This bidder retracted a bid for $350 on your 1950 Bowman Berra. Then, you allowed him to string bid this card back up to $187.50, a day later, after the retraction. This bidder has demonstrated suspicious activity on multiple items, that violates Ebay TOS, and its your responsibility to take control of your brand.

100% agreed.....He should have been blocked after the retraction. Now it makes your auction look shady. Not slander. Just the facts.

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Leon

Actually, to me, that is not the point. I don't think the seller is shilling. I just think he probably has some bidders playing games and it looks bad. He could block them to alleviate it. Do we need to do another poll of how many honest people have 4 bid retractions in 6 months? That number would be close to 0.

I've not retracted a bid in 20 years. Funny, that.

[Peter_Spaeth]

I'm not a volume seller by any means but over the years it adds up to close to a couple thousand sales, most of which were auctions. I can't recall a single time a bidder retracted. Rarely, and I mean maybe a couple times, someone has asked me if I would cancel their bid.

And I don't recall ever retracting a bid myself.

[JeremyW]

I've never retracted a bid in my 15+ years on Ebay. I think Ben might be onto something.