I've started the monster, sort of!

[cozmokramer]

After watching everyone chase the Monster here I often wondered why I've never been attracted to T206s. After all it seems as though 90% of the threads on here are T206 related. If its not the monster as a whole, its chasing double names, ghost images, different backs, stamps on the back and/or color variations, and I'm sure many more subsets that I'm overlooking.

I've finally found my twist on T206s that have me hooked and have the following 7 which I've purchased the past couple weeks.

Signed, yes they are all signed.

A special thanks to a couple Net54 members (Paul & Joe) who made these available to me!

If you have a signed/auto T206 that you would be willing to part with, please let me know!

[g_vezina_c55]

Nice collection !

[mrvster]

Cosmo!!!!!

Great niche:d

love em!!

[CobbSpikedMe]

I've always thought that signed T206s were just awesome. Nice collection so far too.

AndyH


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[cozmokramer]

Thanks for the input. Unfortunately what has me bummed is how slow growing this collection will be. There are many signed T206s out there, but not many that are exchanging hands these days.

If someone does have one they are willing to part with, please PM me!

[T206Collector]

Originally Posted by cozmokramer

unfortunately what has me bummed is how slow growing this collection will be. There are many signed t206s out there, but not many that are exchanging hands these days.

+1

[tonyo]

Originally Posted by cozmokramer

............There are many signed T206s out there, ..........

I'm pretty naive, but I've always been surprised that there are many at all.

How many signed t206's are confirmed to exist? Paul I expect you have a good handle on that............

[T206Collector]

I would say that there are several hundred out there. I believe that there are a lot in private collections, which never come up for sale -- or at least haven't come up for sale in over 10 years -- and may never be cataloged.

Most of what you see on the market now were signed after the publication of Larry Ritter's book "The Glory of Their Times," which drove up a lot of interest in the guys featured in there, like Rube Marquard and Fred Snodgrass. In fact, Rube lived until 1980 and signed a ton of autographs. There are currently 76 autographs of Rube on ebay, just to give some idea of how easy it was to get his autograph in the 1960s and 1970s. A lot of his letters back to autograph seekers plugged Ritter's book, because the players received royalty checks for each sale.

If you eliminate Marquard, Livingston, Doyle, Leifield, Snograss and McBride, the population of autographed T206s drops precipitously.

The next level of difficulty would include Wheat, Flick, Meyers, Davy Jones, Leach, and Fred Parent.

Then I'd put Crawford, Carrigan, Barbeau, Bridwell, and Rucker.

After that, there may be more out there, but I've only seen one or two of the following:

Clarke, Warhop, Blackburne, Fiene, Hoblitzell, Knabe, Chance, Bresnahan (though Phil Marks once estimated that there were dozens of Bresnahan's out there), Speaker, Lajoie, Cicotte, Walsh, Phillippe, Bush, Cravath, Lobert, Zimmerman, Wiltse. Someone on Net54 claims to have a signed Boss Schmidt.

My Walter Johnson and Cy Young signed T206s are likely one of a kind.

There are actually quite a few, relatively speaking, signed T206 Cobb cards out there. Sadly, they rarely come up for sale, and when they do, people break the bank to land them.

There are a few others out there (e.g., McGraw and Jennings) that I do not believe are real, and I have not seen either PSA/DNA or JSA authenticate one.

Finally, if Harry Pattee lived until July 1971, and Al Shaw lived until December 1974, how come we don't ever see those? I often think about possible reasons behind their total absence from this sub-collection.

So, if you want to add a signed T206, you should be able to do so without too much hassle. But to grow a collection beyond a few different subjects would be extremely challenging, particularly now since so many other collectors seem to have caught the bug that has possessed me for nearly 10 years now.

All we can do is hope that another find like Morey's sale in 2001 or the Great Pittsburgh Find of 2007 walks into a show, or onto ebay, or an auction house. Until then, we'll all be buying, selling, and trading from the same general population.

[freakhappy]

Cozmo, great signed collection you have there! Keep moving forward, it looks stellar and is unique.

206collector, that's some great info you threw out there...thanks for sharing your vast knowledge about signed T206's

[g_vezina_c55]

Originally Posted by freakhappy

206collector, that's some great info you threw out there...thanks for sharing your vast knowledge about signed T206's

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[cozmokramer]

Yes, Paul's knowledge on signed T206s is incredible. If not for him, I'd be sitting on just a couple of these as he's enabled by new found passion.

Originally Posted by g_vezina_c55

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[Buythatcard]

Has Wagner ever signed any of his t206's. I doubt it.

Are there any other cards in this set that would be impossible to find signed?

Still a great feat to get any of them.

I've come across thousand's of T206's in my life but never came across a signed one.

[Jlighter]

I don't think a signed Addie Joss exists.

[g_vezina_c55]

Plank...magIe ...