Most interesting, esoteric sets - T206 collectors do not read

[Runscott]

Assuming that you non-T206'ers are indeed correct that the T206 set is common, run-of-the-mill, over-collected and just flat-out discussed too much, what sets are the most 'interesting' and attract a more cerebral hobbyist?

I'm quite serious about this - let's face it, the T205's do not have extremely interesting poses. Oh yeah, they don't have poses at all. The T207's are kind of weak on the background...unless you like...brown. E95's and E96's, and most E-cards, just don't have many cards to a set. Many of the larger sets are just boring black and white.

I have tunnel-vision and can only think of OJ's.

Forget for a moment that I'm an a-hole, and give me your thoughts

[Ease]

Ive always loved the look of the t210 red borders. If I wasn't so poor, and the set so big, that's what I'd go for. Lots of toughies and cool poses in there. B&W though...

[z28jd]

Scott, the t205's have poses, the minor leaguers and those are great looking cards.

My 2nd favorite set for pictures are the t209's b&w, they have some great looking cards in the old stadiums. Best looking cards are the OJ's by far. If you ever get into them let me know, I have plenty to sell at the right price

[rainier2004]

Originally Posted by Runscott

what sets are the most 'interesting' and attract a more cerebral hobbyist?

It seems like the t206s can take an awful lot of homework and would be quite "cerebral"

I love Cracker Jacks, t200s as they are awesome, e105s although I have none and e107s now the more I read about these cards. That 1910 sepia pc 796 of cobb/wagner is also awesome. I think t206s are beautiful cards, much like Stairway to Heaven is a great song, but sometimes there's overload and the board is very heavy into t206s...glad to be different.

[Leon]

Well, personally, I like discussing esoteric sets....

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Leon

Well, personally, I like discussing esoteric sets....

Leon, you gave me a great idea - I'm going to start collecting quarters.

[bobbyw8469]

I like the 1933 Sport Kings set. It gives you a feel for the popular heroes during that period in the world.

[shaunsteig]

I think this is an interesting thread, but can I make a small request -- when suggesting a particular set, can you post an image of a card from that set as an example? I'm familiar with most of the names but can't say that I can recall which set has which particular appearance.

Thanks,
--S

[Ronnie73]

Scott, I'm a T206 collector and clicked anyways. Now i'm partially blind and my computer crashed but anyways, I do agree there are alot of T206's out there and also believe the T212's are much rarer and very under valued. T212's also have a very large assortment of backs. T212's would be the second set i'd collect myself so maybe you might find the same set interesting also.

[bn2cardz]

I have been attracted to the 1933 Goudey set since I was a teenager. One thing I loved about collecting cards when I was a child was reading the backs of the cards. The 1933 Goudey set gives me color, distinctive poses (not all portraits), is large set (yet readily available), and I have information I can read about each player on the back. I like that the 33 Goudey doesn't have as much branding on the front like the 34s do (though with some of the 34s I do get to say I own a 1934 Gehrig with out paying the price of a Gehrig).

Another set from this era that is nice, but is out of my price range to get are the Delongs.

I love t206s and Old Judge as well and the fronts interest me enough to be ok without the stats. The fronts of t205s and t207s have never attracted me, but I do like the info they provide on the back that is missing on a lot of other issues around the years. T201s are nice and have a little bit of the stats without any biography of the players. The 201s though seem to lack too much detail to really enjoy the image as being a certain person, this is a problem I have found with a lot of the candy issues also.

Another good set is the Cracker Jacks, but those seem too uniform (all the red) yet the images of the players are very attractive and they (like the Goudeys) have a substantial amount of reading.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Ronnie73

Scott, I'm a T206 collector and clicked anyways. Now i'm partially blind and my computer crashed but anyways, I do agree there are alot of T206's out there and also believe the T212's are much rarer and very under valued. T212's also have a very large assortment of backs. T212's would be the second set i'd collect myself so maybe you might find the same set interesting also.

Yes, T212's are one of my favorites. I had quite a few when I collected previously, concentrating on the 1909 ones. There were a few 'finds' that resulted in a plethora of relatively cheap EX-MT ones, many with interesting stamps on the back, which no one seemed to mind back then. I had a really weird Ostdiek with a screwed-up back. I don't remember who ended up with that.

I think it's time for a beer.

[CW]

Although I do not collect the set, and don't know much about it (other than information gleaned from online sources and threads on this forum), I'd toss out T216 as an interesting, esoteric set to collect.

It's a regional set sharing the attractive poses and colors from the American Caramel sets. Not only does the set offer a few different backs, the thickness of the card stock and glossiness of the front will vary based on the factory of origin. Add to this the fact that the cards are fairly scarce, and are typically found in lower grade condition, and you have a set that is not only interesting, but indeed esoteric!

Here's a couple threads that discuss the set, along with many cool cards posted by members....

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...highlight=t216

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...highlight=t216

[Ladder7]

I enjoy the T206s and it's idiosycracies and these got me interested in prewar, like many here. Although attempting the Monster, I'm a type collector.

One set I would consider, is the E95s and E96s. Beautifully detailed and rich in color and shadows. Also, some poses are not commonly seen.

[photo111]

Getting the truth? Whose truth?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by photo111

Getting the truth? Whose truth?

...and one for you.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by photo111

Getting the truth? Whose truth?

Leon, do a quick check of this guy's posts, please. I think you'll find him to be basically useless from both a human and vintage card perspective.

When did the board become so popular with children?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Leon, do a quick check of this guy's posts, please. I think you'll find him to be basically useless from both a human and vintage card perspective.

When did the board become so popular with children?

His name is Mich@el Pen.z and I don't have an answer to your question. From looking at his public profile stats, all of his posts, he has had 15 and 14 were negative. I guess some people are just negative people? My guess is he could be short lived for this board but we will see....

[photo111]

I was just curious about "the truth". I thought maybe you had a message to send. Like a David Koresh kind of thing. Sorry I asked.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by photo111

I was just curious about "the truth". I thought maybe you had a message to send. Like a David Koresh kind of thing. Sorry I asked.

I admit that I can be an @ss - if you read any of my posts, this is no secret. My signature line was basically an f-you to all the trolls and second-hand glory leaches who have been giving me a hard time lately over expressing my opinion(s).

But along with being an @ss, I like to think I also contribute something useful to the hobby. The rapport that I still have with most T206 collectors on the board would indicate that this is true, if only just a very tiny bit.

Whenever I see a jab post like yours, from a relatively non-poster, I check his other posts to get a feel for the context. The context I get from yours is that like me, you can be an @ss, but unlike me, you seem to be an @ss exclusively.

Perhaps I'm wrong. Show us something.

[photo111]

I actually like most of your posts. But, when you start talking about "the truth" in big bold letters, come on. I probably have the worst pre-war collection out of anyone on the board. I don't have anything in better than beat to shit condition. But I love what I have and wouldn't change any of it.
I come here to read and learn, and I have in fact, learned alot. One of the things that I have learned:
Do not wrinkle the shorts of the second largest self-righteous clown on the board. He will cry to the moderator and try to get me removed because I threw a jab at one of the most ridiculous claims I have ever seen.
Hey everyone! The truth is coming!
Leon, you can kick me off now.

[ErikV]

Runscott,

While there is no arguing that the T206 is the grandaddy of all baseball card
sets, there is a reason it is called the "Monster." I for one personally find it
a daunting task to collect this set. Then, throw in all of its variation
backs, rarities and of course the big 4 and the entire proposition becomes
downright discouraging.

Three years ago, I began work on not only collecting a very nice E95 set,
but also researching its manufacturer, the Philadelphia Caramel Company.
Over time I discovered small nuances about the set such as the connection
of one special player included in the set with the confectioners' owner. I
also discovered the reason why several other players were included in this
set, and an apparent connection with premiums produced by this company
having a direct correlation to the overall health of the company. In short, a
unique sense of ownership and inside knowledge to this set developed.

While collecting a mere 25 cards doesn't seem all that challenging, I gained
a greater appreciation for each card, and for each set produced by this
candy manufacturer. Having once been a simple added throw in to a
piece of candy, each of these cards now tells a story that has been lost
through the passage of time.

In July 2009 I published my findings in a book form and had the opportunity
to correspond with family members from Philadelphia Caramels former
owners.

You now have one vote from a non-T206er!

[edhans]

Hey Rhett, how's that master spreadsheet of the E121/122s coming along?

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ErikV

Runscott,

While there is no arguing that the T206 is the grandaddy of all baseball card
sets, there is a reason it is called the "Monster." I for one personally find it
a daunting task to collect this set. Then, throw in all of its variation
backs, rarities and of course the big 4 and the entire proposition becomes
downright discouraging.

Three years ago, I began work on not only collecting a very nice E95 set,
but also researching its manufacturer, the Philadelphia Caramel Company.
Over time I discovered small nuances about the set such as the connection
of one special player included in the set with the confectioners' owner. I
also discovered the reason why several other players were included in this
set, and an apparent connection with premiums produced by this company
having a direct correlation to the overall health of the company. In short, a
unique sense of ownership and inside knowledge to this set developed.

While collecting a mere 25 cards doesn't seem all that challenging, I gained
a greater appreciation for each card, and for each set produced by this
candy manufacturer. Having once been a simple added throw in to a
piece of candy, each of these cards now tells a story that has been lost
through the passage of time.

In July 2009 I published my findings in a book form and had the opportunity
to correspond with family members from Philadelphia Caramels former
owners.

You now have one vote from a non-T206er!

SWEET!

Could you please send a link to where we can purchase the book/get more detail?

[ErikV]

My website came down a few months. I'm not if this link will work or not.

http://web.archive.org/web/201003290...iacaramel.com/

If your interested the book sells for $12.99.

ErikV

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by ErikV

My website came down a few months. I'm not if this link will work or not.

http://web.archive.org/web/201003290...iacaramel.com/

If your interested the book sells for $12.99.

ErikV

Would you rather I purchase through this link: Philadelphia Caramel Book

...or by sending you a PM and getting your Paypal address?

By coincidence, six E95's just arrived in the mail 5 minutes ago. I continue to be amazed at how hard SGC is on these fragile caramel cards. They look fantastic!

[ErikV]

PM sent.

ErikV