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Old 07-30-2016, 09:03 PM
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Default Psa/sgc?

I think there both inconsistent and should be out sourced right away!
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Old 07-31-2016, 05:15 AM
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Default PSA ? SGC ? A Pox Upon Their Grading Houses.

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I think there both inconsistent and should be out sourced right away!

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Old 08-04-2016, 02:00 PM
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Here are a couple recently graded cards to give an example of what I was talking about earlier. The SGC 50 is a pretty normal 50 for them. The Hutchinson might be a bit of an outlier with regard to how nice it is, but it shows that they can be incredibly tough. I think it would be an SGC 80 at least.
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Old 08-04-2016, 02:17 PM
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The Hutchinson probably one or two spider vein creases
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Old 08-04-2016, 03:01 PM
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The Hutchinson probably one or two spider vein creases
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SGC is way easier on soft corners (at least on T206s) than PSA. But, my favorite thing about SGC vs. PSA is that SGC will not grade a T206 an SGC 60 if it has any sort of wrinkle or crease (at least, I've never seen one). PSA, on the other hand, is rigid about corners, but seems to miss the wrinkles and creases on PSA 5s at an inordinate level. That's really annoying to me. I buy PSA 5 and SGC 60 T206s because I abhor wrinkles and creases. SGC has never let me down. PSA frequently does in this area.

Also, I think I am right about this, but SGC has basically had the same three graders grading their cards for a very long time. That makes for much better consistency over time. PSA is all over the place.
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Default Bob luce

Bob Is no longer at sgc he now works with REA. I believe Scott aka Lummy is the only grader still there from 5 years ago. . Derek has been gone for awhile. Steve may still be there I am not sure. I still feel that they (sgc) are generally more consistent and you are correct about wrinkles. I think they are both good services overall. I personally prefer psa. I like the holders and the demand for their product is far superior.
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Old 08-05-2016, 03:13 PM
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I think SGC is more consistent than PSA. PSA is all over the place, they make it so tough now I feel they don't even follow their grading standard description. SGC's holder looks better, and it's not too often they miss consistency by much.
PSA on the other hand a 6 if you crack it out might come back as a 3.5.
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