Dalshire International Auctions

[ejharrington]

Has anyone dealt with this company before? I never heard of them before. I received an e-mail for one of their auctions and they have some big-ticket items.

[Steve D]

I've suddenly been getting numerous emails from them also, after having never heard of them.

I just looked at their auction, and I'm very sceptical. The autographed items I looked at (the Babe Ruth balls, 1939 signed baseball first day cover, Apollo-11 signed piece, all look fake to me. Also, the companies that provide the "certificates of authenticity" don't provide any warm fuzzies either. "Forensically Examined and Certified" out of Paw Paw, WV isn't someone I trust; neither are "Autograph Certification Experts", or GFA Authentication.

Personally, I would avoid them.

Steve

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

I'd love to know who sold this company my contact info.

[earlywynnfan]

+1 to what's been said above!!

[robertsmithnocure]

Here was their recent auction:

https://dalshire.com/auction/2210?pa...eid=a51b57a459

The had this 1933 All Star Team signed baseball estimated at $300K to $350K and it sold for $11K.

https://dalshire.com/lotview/2210/11...eid=a51b57a459

Or, how about this 1927 Yankee Team signed baseball estimated at $300K to $450K that sold for $16.5K

https://dalshire.com/lotview/2210/11...n=0&perPage=20

As signed Dimaggio and Monroe ball?

https://dalshire.com/auction/2210?pa...eid=a51b57a459

Seems like everything came with a letter from GFA, whoever that is.

Or, what about a signed Cy Young cap?

https://dalshire.com/lotview/2210/11...628&perPage=20

[rjackson44]

Coaches corner

[Klrdds]

They emailed about a year ago for an auction and after looking at their highly suspect autograph items and their LOAs from unknown TPAs my first thought was that C C had expanded their operations to Texas as well .

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by robertsmithnocure

Here was their recent auction:

https://dalshire.com/auction/2210?pa...eid=a51b57a459

The had this 1933 All Star Team signed baseball estimated at $300K to $350K and it sold for $11K.

https://dalshire.com/lotview/2210/11...eid=a51b57a459

Or, how about this 1927 Yankee Team signed baseball estimated at $300K to $450K that sold for $16.5K

https://dalshire.com/lotview/2210/11...n=0&perPage=20

As signed Dimaggio and Monroe ball?

https://dalshire.com/auction/2210?pa...eid=a51b57a459

Seems like everything came with a letter from GFA, whoever that is.

Or, what about a signed Cy Young cap?

https://dalshire.com/lotview/2210/11...628&perPage=20

Oh, GFA is QUITE well-known. That's not a good thing.

[Hankphenom]

Oh, boy...

[pokerplyr80]

Best of luck to the bidders, I completely missed this one and I can't say I'm sorry that I did. Reminds me of that auction house that had one auction a while back, and someone posted here about how he sent a large consignment and got completely screwed. I dont remember the name, and never heard anything about them afterwards.

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Best of luck to the bidders, I completely missed this one and I can't say I'm sorry that I did. Reminds me of that auction house that had one auction a while back, and someone posted here about how he sent a large consignment and got completely screwed. I dont remember the name, and never heard anything about them afterwards.

Was that the thread where the unuauctioned items ( big $$ ) were returned and just dumped on the consignor's lawn in the rain ? Nightmare thread . "uncle" somebody ?

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[Leon]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Best of luck to the bidders, I completely missed this one and I can't say I'm sorry that I did. Reminds me of that auction house that had one auction a while back, and someone posted here about how he sent a large consignment and got completely screwed. I dont remember the name, and never heard anything about them afterwards.

Crazy Uncle's...
.

[mrreality68]

I am glad we all "missed it"

more Spam emails joy and they go right to inbox past my spam filters

[russkcpa]

Wow a LOA !! Must be legit
Reminds me of that clown Myron Ross from Hero's and Legends

[rjackson44]

Like coaches corner how do these outfits get away with ���� this garbage

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

Was that the thread where the unuauctioned items ( big $$ ) were returned and just dumped on the consignor's lawn in the rain ? Nightmare thread . "uncle" somebody ?

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Yes that's the one. Leon yes that was the name I believe crazy uncle. Turns out it was rather appropriate.

[D. Bergin]

Located in Carrollton, Texas. Owned and operated by nobody in particular, according to my limited internet sleuthing abilities.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

I'd love to know who sold this company my contact info.

Just got an email from them today. I'd also like to know who is selling our contact info but I suppose anyone can get it from google or Facebook any way.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Just got an email from them today. I'd also like to know who is selling our contact info but I suppose anyone can get it from google or Facebook any way.

Not in my case to be certain. Info had to have been sold to them.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Just got an email from them today. I'd also like to know who is selling our contact info but I suppose anyone can get it from google or Facebook any way.

For the record, I have never sold or given out (for public use) any information from the bit of contact info on file. No names, emails or phone numbers, ever.

[36GoudeyMan]

Dalshire International apparently is owned/run by John House, who had a prior (?) auction house called "At Auction." A quick Google search on him and "At Auction" send chills down the spine -- employees told not to deposit checks, vendors not paid, etc., etc. Looks like, just maybe, Dalshire is "At Auction 2.0" and merely another vehicle for the sale of shoddy fake crap at inflated prices using buddies to leave positive reviews on legit sites like Live Auctioneers.

[NATCARD]

All of the forgers at Coach's Corner Auctions have a new outlet. Twice the items in the market. How do these companies exist?
http://myccsa.com/
These guys have been at it for years.

[rjackson44]

Originally Posted by NATCARD

All of the forgers at Coach's Corner Auctions have a new outlet. Twice the items in the market. How do these companies exist?
http://myccsa.com/
These guys have been at it for years.

Great question jeff i wonder the same,

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by NATCARD

All of the forgers at Coach's Corner Auctions have a new outlet. Twice the items in the market. How do these companies exist?
http://myccsa.com/
These guys have been at it for years.

We really need a "bang my head against a wall" emoji on Net54.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Leon

For the record, I have never sold or given out (for public use) any information from the bit of contact info on file. No names, emails or phone numbers, ever.

I didn't mean to suggest you were, but that's good to know and appreciated. Do auction houses sell client lists to eachother? My comment about FB and Google was more that I'm sure they've already sold my info to anyone that wants it. Seems I just think about something these days and an ad pops up for it.

[BobC]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I didn't mean to suggest you were, but that's good to know and appreciated. Do auction houses sell client lists to eachother? My comment about FB and Google was more that I'm sure they've already sold my info to anyone that wants it. Seems I just think about something these days and an ad pops up for it.

Not sure about selling information, but many AH's do ask for references when initially registering with them. I'm assuming that at least some of them actually look to verify these references and may do a little "quid pro quo" in sharing some information back and forth then.

[Hankphenom]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

We really need a "bang my head against a wall" emoji on Net54.

"June 30, 1846. Mr Cartwright, c/o New York Knickerbockers Base Ball Club: Dear Sir, Although we don't have base ball yet here in the Midwest, I have heard about it and it sounds like a great game for the youth of America. To introduce the Illinois area to this pastime, I would very much appreciate your sending me the ball used in your recent game against the New Yorks signed by the members of your team. Perhaps some day I will be in a position to return the favor. Sincerely, A. Lincoln." Estimate, ball and letter, $1,000-$5,000." COA, Coaches Corner.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Dang it all, I just spent my last $8 on John the Baptist's shower curtains.

[Fred]

Originally Posted by Leon

For the record, I have never sold or given out (for public use) any information from the bit of contact info on file. No names, emails or phone numbers, ever.

Leon, I'm sure that nobody here would consider that anybody from the N54 board (moderators to you) EVER would have provided any information without the board members consent.

If this auction house (if you can call it that) was run by someone under a different name, then perhaps that's where the info came from.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by Leon

For the record, I have never sold or given out (for public use) any information from the bit of contact info on file. No names, emails or phone numbers, ever.

I'd like to think that anybody who's been here long enough would already know that you wouldn't be doing that. It was certainly never my thought that you were to blame.

Insofar as unsolicited auction house emails are concerned, I don't necessarily mind them provided that it appears that the business in question is at least trying to run a fairly clean operation. If the material seems mostly forged or altered, that deeply bothers me and makes me question which businesses are sharing information with a shady outfit.

On a related note, auction house emails are fine in small numbers. If these businesses constantly flood my inbox, I consider that invasive. I simply refuse to do business with people who can't tell the difference between a tactful limit of email contact and sheer annoyance/spam. There's lots of competition out there for my money. Stuff doesn't trump all for everybody.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by Hankphenom

"June 30, 1846. Mr Cartwright, c/o New York Knickerbockers Base Ball Club: Dear Sir, Although we don't have base ball yet here in the Midwest, I have heard about it and it sounds like a great game for the youth of America. To introduce the Illinois area to this pastime, I would very much appreciate your sending me the ball used in your recent game against the New Yorks signed by the members of your team. Perhaps some day I will be in a position to return the favor. Sincerely, A. Lincoln." Estimate, ball and letter, $1,000-$5,000." COA, Coaches Corner.

Fantastic!

Don't be surprised if they lift this from this thread and use it for their next blockbuster auction.

[Leon]

I was mostly saying I haven't ever given out info like that, for our newer members, but I appreciate the vote of confidence (as well as the others). If I was doing anything wrong in the hobby, it would be known about. Comes with the territory. I have no worries in that respect. My worry is, how can I afford to keep collecting!!

As for the original topic, go with trusted sources. Very new auction houses need to get an extra bit of review.

and a card for no real reason....

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

I'd like to think that anybody who's been here long enough would already know that you wouldn't be doing that. It was certainly never my thought that you were to blame.

Insofar as unsolicited auction house emails are concerned, I don't necessarily mind them provided that it appears that the business in question is at least trying to run a fairly clean operation. If the material seems mostly forged or altered, that deeply bothers me and makes me question which businesses are sharing information with a shady outfit.

On a related note, auction house emails are fine in small numbers. If these businesses constantly flood my inbox, I consider that invasive. I simply refuse to do business with people who can't tell the difference between a tactful limit of email contact and sheer annoyance/spam. There's lots of competition out there for my money. Stuff doesn't trump all for everybody.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Leon

I was mostly saying I haven't ever given out info like that, for our newer members, but I appreciate the vote of confidence (as well as the others). If I was doing anything wrong in the hobby, it would be known about. Comes with the territory. I have no worries in that respect. My worry is, how can I afford to keep collecting!!

As for the original topic, go with trusted sources. Very new auction houses need to get an extra bit of review.

and a card for no real reason....

Agreed, I am also much more concerned with how I will fund my next purchase without selling a card I'd prefer to keep than I am with how some scam AH got my email address.

I will add a card as well for no reason, other than that it is my favorite Wagner that I own, and the closest I will ever get to a t206.

[bammerbb]

What made me laugh, was the 1927 Yankees ball. In the auction description it said "All signatures are signed in black ink." Most of the sigs look BLUE to me. Can black sigs in that era fade to black????

Brian

[Yoda]

Seriously, shouldn't the FBI be alerted to these evil-doers. I, too, have been getting their solicitation emails.