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Old 09-23-2005, 05:17 PM
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Posted By: adam

this t206 red portraite cobb looks suspicious to me, but im no grader. is there anyone out there that can tell if this is a doctored up reprint or the original. thanx

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Old 09-23-2005, 05:20 PM
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Posted By: zach

One of the worst fakes i've ever seen.

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Old 09-23-2005, 05:21 PM
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Posted By: bcornell

Indisputably fake, like the t206 Cobb in the thread yesterday. Cards don't get wear like that, the typeface is wrong, the colors are bad, etc.

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Old 09-23-2005, 06:07 PM
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Posted By: Dan Koteles

I dont dink dat Cobby had "Blonde hair" !

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Old 09-23-2005, 10:14 PM
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Posted By: David Smith

They come to the board asking about the card and poof, it magically appers on eBay. They even spelled "portraite" the same way.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-1911-T206-Ty-Cobb-Red-Portraite-Sweet-Caporal_W0QQitemZ5263745841QQcategoryZ86840QQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem

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Old 09-24-2005, 03:27 AM
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Posted By: pete

"portraite" as well as "im no grader"...duh!



my best pitch was the one that made it to the plate!

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Old 09-24-2005, 05:42 AM
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Posted By: Mark Holt

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Old 09-24-2005, 06:12 AM
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Posted By: Brian

Maybe it's because its early and I'm just starting my cup of coffee...

What someone should do is win his auction, get his address and sign him up for all the junk mail in the world.

His Net54 account should be deleted, although I doubt he's used it too much, will in the future or won't just reappear under a different login.

Brian

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Old 09-24-2005, 06:25 AM
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Posted By: leon

Please email me privately. At that time I am going to want to chat with you on the phone. I will do it on my dime. I will need your phone # and a good time to call you too. Until that time you won't be posting anymore. thanks

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Old 09-24-2005, 06:40 AM
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Posted By: Brian

Message sent to the ebay seller:

You are a scammer and soon to be a criminal
1) here is the thread you started on net54: http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=153652&messageid=1127517426&lp=1127564735
2)here is your ebay auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5263745841
3) here is the first agency I'm contacting: http://www.cybercrime.gov/
4) here is the second agency I'm contacting: http://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/
5) Interstate commerce fraud and crime are federal crimes. Your home of recond can easily be obtained through your email and paypal account.



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Old 09-24-2005, 06:43 AM
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Posted By: leon

Nice work...if those agencies have emails addys (which I am sure they do) I suggest you send a link to this thread...so they know we aren't just some kids playing around. This guy really does need to be punished/fined/jailed.....thanks again

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Old 09-24-2005, 06:59 AM
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Posted By: Brian

Two more things can be done
1) His ebay auction provides this email address to send paypal payments: checkmate@chartertn.net
Here is how to contact his ISP: http://www.charter.com/contact/contact.aspx?target=webmaster&AcceptsCookies=1 I'd say he is abusing his account and probably violating the TOS.
2) Here is the link to report paypal abuse: https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help-ext&ui_mode=answer&prior_transaction_id=0&action_code=4&answer_id=3591937&leafid=2236&_PPP=511&_PPC=8388607&_FI=Protection_Policies

update: 1) ISP notified 2) Complaint with the ifccfbi filed. Complaint number: I05092409439689

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Posted By: Anonymous

Does anyone agree or disagree with reporting "scammers" like this? Or do you let the "uneducated" fall for the scam and learn from their mistakes? My feelings won't be hurt if I'm labeled a vigalante as was the case a few days ago concerning a certain $2000 Green Cobb on Ebay slabbed by SGC that looks bogus/cracked out.

So often I just ignore these guys and their very doctored reprint cards. For some reason this one just got under my skin.

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Posted By: jackgoodman

I think this guy got "uder our skin" 'cause he ran his card by this group to see if a) it would fool anyone, b) wanted to know what he needed to "fix" to get it to sell or c) is just stupid. I don't think any of the board likes feeling "used."

That said, I'd like to put out there the following question: Do members of the board believe they have a responsibility/desire/calling to be the polcemen of Ebay and take all of the "reporting" actions outlined above or is it a large group of individuals that have outstanding knowledge that is available for those that find it, ask for it or use it?

Just asking.

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Posted By: Anson

Did anyone else make the connection of the name Adam and Cobb red portrait? It just seemed a little strange.

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Posted By: dennis

great job by brian! yes i report bogus auctions all the time,gives me pleasure when they disapear. i also notify "buyers" if the id is not hidden but some of the time i feel i am notifying a shill or the seller w/another id.

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Posted By: Brian

mrgixser@yahoo.com wrote me and stated he removed the listing

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Posted By: Bryan

Our old friend Adam is from Iowa, this guy is from Tennessee. Adam owns a PSA 1 red background Cobb.

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