PWCC-PQ (premium quality)

[RedsFan1941]

Originally Posted by bensie

So because I'm new and didn't fill out my profile, I'm not allowed to have an opinion?

sure you're allowed to have an opinion. and if you want to express it here, check out the rule in bold at the top of the page:

If you give an opinion of a person or company your full name needs to be in your post.

[the 'stache]

Oh, how I wish Yogi Berra were alive to see this.

[Leon]

Fixed and he and I will have a quick chat about it soon...

Originally Posted by RedsFan1941

sure you're allowed to have an opinion. and if you want to express it here, check out the rule in bold at the top of the page:

If you give an opinion of a person or company your full name needs to be in your post.

[frankbmd]

If there is a flaw on a PWCC stickered card, HE or PQ, that gives a whole new meaning to “sticker shock”.

[1880nonsports]

You don't want to wear the ribbon??!?

[conor912]

Man, this is a slippery slope. Adding a sticker and marketing it as adding perceived value to something is dicey. I don't know what kind of premium, if any, these will add to prices, but I just did a 3 minute search and found this company who makes similar stickers. Scroll down to item 34. If it's not identical, it's so close that most wouldn't know the difference. Wouldn't be hard to just buy a bunch and slap them on everything. With power comes responsibility, and this seems sloppy. At least custom design your sticker from scratch instead of using something off the shelf. Jeez.

https://www.novavisioninc.com/pages/...am_labels.html

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by conor912

Man, this is a slippery slope. Adding a sticker and marketing it as adding perceived value to something is dicey. I don't know what kind of premium, if any, these will add to prices, but I just did a 3 minute search and found this company who makes similar stickers. Scroll down to item 34. If it's not identical, it's so close that most wouldn't know the difference. Wouldn't be hard to just buy a bunch and slap them on everything. With power comes responsibility, and this seems sloppy. At least custom design your sticker from scratch instead of using something off the shelf. Jeez.

https://www.novavisioninc.com/pages/...am_labels.html

Sorta related to my issue with it which is, at least the grading companies are somewhat accountable for their standards (buy back guarantees etc...) PWCC eschews all responsibility (we're not professional graders) while offering a MORE HIGHLY NUANCED opinion on a cards condition (or appeal or whatever they want to call it) than the grading companies. PLUS they don't back it up with any kind of guarantee. Basically "We can't grade from 1 - 20 (1-10 with half point grades is in essence a 20 point scale) but we can grade on a 40, or possibly 80 point scale (1-10 with half grades plus HE plus PQ)

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

Sorta related to my issue with it which is, at least the grading companies are somewhat accountable for their standards (buy back guarantees etc...) PWCC eschews all responsibility (we're not professional graders) while offering a MORE HIGHLY NUANCED opinion on a cards condition (or appeal or whatever they want to call it) than the grading companies. PLUS they don't back it up with any kind of guarantee. Basically "We can't grade from 1 - 20 (1-10 with half point grades is in essence a 20 point scale) but we can grade on a 40, or possibly 80 point scale (1-10 with half grades plus HE plus PQ)

The 58 Clemente which was pointed out by Chris P. was enough to make me lose all faith (not that I ever had any) in PWCC's ability to spot a high end card.

[joshuanip]

My prediction. This is a fad and will either be spun off if there is traction, or discontinue when all is said and done.

There is definitely a business case for a "second opinion" or any edge over the normal grade. Sales backs this up from the price premiums realized from from + grading to "high-end" cards at the auctions. I think it would be nice to have a PSA sticker or a SGC sticker on the slabs as second opinions and to solve the registry dilemma. But there are conflict of interests if the auction does the second opinion.

For the bidder, that label serves as an economic signal to everyone else bidding for the card. Higher prices are good for PWCC, not the bidder. Value economics decline and makes competing auction houses better hunting grounds for value. Oh yeah, what happens when PSA issues their new version slab and when you resubmit that sticker goes away...like driving a new car off the lot?

For the seller, what if you don't get one of their shiny labels and you are listed in their auction? Does that mean a card graded is weak for its grade? Tough cookies on the crap shoot of consigning to see if you get a label, only to not get one and get less than what you were hoping for.