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Old 05-15-2008, 12:56 PM
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And isn't customer service their number one objective?

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I think what Bill Mastro/Doug Allen say about the card will be more interesting than what Joe Orlando says.

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Jim,

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Posted By: Brad L.

One thing I do know is this; just because someone had a bad experience with a company, doesn't mean that any amount of "knowledge" and forced opinion is going to stop someone else, that has had nothing but good experiences with a company, from using that company.

I completely understand people's perceptions of PSA, vs. other grading companies, as being subpar on pre-war. But if the anti-PSA group truely believes that PSA has no business grading pre-war cards, then wouldn't they have to question the thousands of people who have, and continue to, get pre-war cards graded by PSA? Surely you can't be that "superior" to others. When it comes to the "big three," it's a personal preference based on personal experience and some factual mistakes and a ton of false claims and that's it.

A fanboy is a fanboy no matter how much you think that you know.

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Marty,

Yes.

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Old 05-15-2008, 01:07 PM
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I did not know that you were a PSA customer Leon.

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Old 05-15-2008, 01:10 PM
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Yes, quite a long time ago I submitted to them and I still buy cards in their holders very frequently....almost daily. So if I am buying their product I do think that makes me a customer. I really do think PSA gets it right most of the time and have nothing personally against Joe O......I assure you if he and I ever talk I will be as polite as anyone......

edited to add....I won't buy above a PSA7 in their holder.....as a personal preference...

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Old 05-15-2008, 01:43 PM
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Whoops I am meeting Annabelle not Joe.

Are you taking me up on this Leon????

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Old 05-15-2008, 01:49 PM
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Posted By: leon

What do you expect either of them to tell me? THEY aren't the ones who authenticated it. PSA did. I have no idea who Annabelle is either.....No disrespect meant but I am not sure I care.....

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Old 05-15-2008, 01:54 PM
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Posted By: JimCrandell

Leon,

No doubt you have read of the travels of this card and what is alleged to have happened to it. It has been written about in detail on this board and in a recent book. Many of the details around what happened to it Mr. Mastro would have direct knowledge of. It would be fascinating to know the real story.

If Joe was at PSA when this was authenticated he was not involved in the decision. Annabelle is Joe's admin asst.

Here is your chance Leon

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Also if you have questions you want to ask Joe, you can forward them to me and I will try to get you answers.

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In a nutshell the prevailing theory of The Card is that it was most likely cut from a sheet and then possibly trimmed after that. I am pretty sure there are others that know as much as Bill does too.....but all of that is for another thread...... PSA slabbed it with a number. They are the ones that should be asked the questions. I am done with this subject as it's like a cat chasing it's tail....

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No way Bill Mastro would ever be involved in something dishonest regarding baseball cards just to make money. It goes against everything I've ever heard about him. Same thing with Doug Allen. He is honest as the day is long and would never be involved in fraud in connection with Mastro auctions. Just impossible to believe.

On another note, has anyone ever seen the Star Trek episode "Mirror Mirror"?

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Ask him if he would like to advertise on Net54 for me. I need to drum up some business....(Actually there is a small waiting list for a front page banner...this was a joke)

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Old 05-15-2008, 02:06 PM
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Posted By: JimCrandell

Jeff,

Of course not--both are fine men and an assets to the hobby.

Thought there could be a few interesting details that someone who is best buds with them could get them to reveal.

Want to swap the 20 55 8s I need for my 7s and cash?

Jim

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Marty-

Yes...Jim does have a house here in Alpharetta with us southern folk. Unfortunatly I think it is the rain today that has dripped on Jim's head and put him slightly out of whack on his thought process. It may be sunny tomorrow Jim.

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I bought a house in Georgia so Dave and I could have our PSA/SGC/ungraded debates in person rather than by e-mail.

I even offered to treat him to dinner where I would convince him to see the light.

Dave--I love the trips west to see the Rome Braves. I like watching the minor leagues better than majors. Can't wait until Richmond Braves move to Georgia.

Jim

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Thats exactly what Gwinnett County needs Jim is the Braves AAA team. As if that county needed to get any more congested.

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Old 05-15-2008, 05:26 PM
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Jim, do you really have a house in Alphretta? Are you sure you're from NY?

And Dave, us NYers were willing to put a stadium up on the west side of manhattan -- which would add an incredible amount of congestion to an already congested area -- in order to have greater access to sports.

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Old 05-15-2008, 05:34 PM
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Jeff-

We already have the Braves here, and the class A affiliate an hour out of Atlanta...I don't think we really needed the AAA affiliate as well. But what do I know. Unlike in NY where I'm assuming many take taxis, bikes or walk everywhere I have to do the 25 mile commute into work everyday that on a rainy afternoon like today can take 2 hours to get home...and I'm just loving that $4.00 gas.


Jim-

Were you planning on bringing most of your collection to dinner with you? How many tables would we have to reserve for that? I'll bring my loupe to prove my points on those PSA cards.

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Dave, fair point. I went to college in Atlanta and have many bad memories of a two hour drive down Peachtree which covered two miles....

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Well Jeff, your a lawyer. So unfortunately you didn't go to the right college in Atlanta.

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Ahhh, it wasn't my choice of college that doomed me!

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I thought you went to NC or Duke anyway...doesn't matter the best of the ACC schools is in downtown Atlanta.

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Duke for law school. As for Ga Tech, I wasn't aware that they played in the ACC.

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Jeff-

I'm assuming your talking about on the court. Not on the football field or baseball field (ahem)... That's ok though..as long as you weren't campus buddies with those hood-lums Hurley and Laettner.

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"Has anyone ever seen Doug Allen, Joe Orlando or JP Cohen in the same room together?"

I think Joe and Doug bailed JP out of jail?

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Yes the new stadium is going up about five miles from my house in Suwanee. Luckily I am moving to Bishop in the near future. What a mess the transportation system is in this town!

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Old 05-15-2008, 06:41 PM
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Dave, are you telling me ACC teams play football and baseball? I think it's only basketball. Get your facts straight please.

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Don't take it out on me Jeff, my company just fixes the roads.

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Well Jeff...

Most of them do play football and baseball. Duke and UNC, i'm not so sure. Although, nothing I can say will take away those golden memories of those 7-4 seasons with Coach Spurrier at the helm. Is he in the Duke football HOF yet Jeff?

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I'll have you know that my last year at Duke we won the ACC with Spurrier and played in a bowl game. Really. And then Duke cancelled football which was for the best.

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Hi Dave,
Forget Duke... But NC baseball is always in the top 5... in fact we have been top 2 in the last few years... Be well Brian


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Hey Brian, sorry about Lawson, Green and Ellington (apparently they're all gone).

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Well as a true fan I am looking forward to the Braves Triple A team coming to the Atlanta area--yahoo.

Jeff--if I told you how many houses I had you wouldn't believe it--actually don't get down to Alpharetta much but I hear its a nice place.

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LOL-

Jim, you crack me up. You can't come across any more pompous than that last statement. Your a riot.

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Hey--we are good ole boys from Alpharetta-ha ha.

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The good 'ol boys are in Cumming and Woodstock. Uptowners are in Alpharetta!

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Whew. Good ol' boy'er. Grew up in Woodstock, then moved further north with the even bigger Good ol' boy'ers in Canton

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Jeff,

I think you're right. I like Cumming.

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Jim ol' buddy, your a nut.

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But...your not the only rich nut. I think Ted Turner is right there with ya.

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Dave,

Not in that league. You will have to come over next time I am in Georgia.

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I don't understand the reference to PSA. Am I stupid or something?

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It's nice to see so many folks on here near Atlanta..

I'm in Lilburn, Ga.



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Marty,

We should have a party! I will volunteer my house.

Jim

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Jim-

You'd have to actually visit your house once in a while.

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Hey, knock it off--I have been there three times already.

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