Ebay seller pcbcomicsandsports trimming cards and bypassing authentication

[cgjackson222]

Ebay seller PCBComicsandSports has some really beautiful raw cards up for auction. Unfortunately, they all look trimmed.

And they are blatantly bypassing ebay authentication by listing all cards as part of Lots with 6 other HOFers that are not mentioned elsewhere in the listing.

They also rarely list pictures of the backs of their cards.

Not sure how they've managed to become a "Top Rated Plus" seller with 99.9% positive feedback and 173K sales....

They have already been called out in a few places for unethical practices:
https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1548679
https://forums.collectors.com/discus...sports-on-ebay
https://community.ebay.com/t5/Ask-a-.../td-p/32341544

But I thought I'd call them out again, given their volume of auctions right now.

Here are some of their recent listings:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/374682211161

https://www.ebay.com/itm/374682104184

https://www.ebay.com/itm/38559682195...YAAOSw~2pkVzZ1

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

They also manipulate their scans to conceal creases and other issues, including not paying people who consigned with them. They've been around for ages under many different aliases and have been discussed here many times over the years. I believe one of their many former usernames was peppercia. Avoid like the plague.

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[mrreality68]

thanks for the update

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

They also manipulate their scans to conceal creases and other issues, including not paying people who consigned with them. They've been around for ages under many different aliases and have been discussed here many times over the years. I believe one of their many former usernames was peppercia. Avoid like the plague.

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Yet they have 99.9 percent feedback or something close. I love ebay.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Yet they have 99.9 percent feedback or something close. I love ebay.

eBay feedback has been completely worthless for a LONG time. It makes me LOL every time someone make a big deal about their feedback.

[Vintage Vern]

I fell victim to them recently. They sold a bunch of W573 gave them all very high grades. Mine wasn't close to the grade given. They sure doctored the photo. They also wouldn't respond to multiple messages I just took the risk. They also start all them at .79 and had a reserve they say nothing about until you bid. They also shill bid. Every auction was driven up by 1 bidder then after a certain point another took over mostly on the higher end cards. It was so obvious. I'm not totally disappointed but not nearly as happy either.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Vintage Vern

I fell victim to them recently. They sold a bunch of W573 gave them all very high grades. Mine wasn't close to the grade given. They sure doctored the photo. They also wouldn't respond to multiple messages I just took the risk. They also start all them at .79 and had a reserve they say nothing about until you bid. They also shill bid. Every auction was driven up by 1 bidder then after a certain point another took over mostly on the higher end cards. It was so obvious. I'm not totally disappointed but not nearly as happy either.

Open a not as described case?

[jchcollins]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

I love ebay.

I've said this before and elsewhere, but a large part of the problem is eBay never having bothered to either become or employ category experts on anything which is sold on their site. The most recent evidence of which - redundant and time consuming "authentication" of many cards and other items over a certain dollar value, many of which of course have already been professionally graded.

But yes, eBay feedback is an antiquated joke at this point. They removed the seller's ability to leave legit feedback for buyers in 2008. It's gone steadily downhill from there.

[Leon]

Names, names, names......

What I don't understand is the lack of reading comprehension on this forum. Is there anyone that doesn't know what this means?

If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it.

I am going to start putting names next to posts and will be giving infractions. I am getting tired of it and suspensions will happen after the 2nd warning. Thanks
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[Svabinsky78]

They sold two R315 Hubbell cards in one month. If you look at the listing photo...it's the identical photo, for both listings (it has a yellowish streak in the middle ). And these two are not the only listings of this card. I saw them list this card at least one other time, using the same exact photo.....

Pcb must have quite the stash of R315s.

When it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

[nwobhm]

Originally Posted by Leon

Names, names, names......

What I don't understand is the lack of reading comprehension on this forum. Is there anyone that doesn't know what this means?

If you write anything concerning a person or company your full name needs to be in your post or obtainable from it.

This rule isn’t well thought out. One day someone is going to get hurt…. Proper moderation doesn’t require names.

[cgjackson222]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

They also manipulate their scans to conceal creases and other issues, including not paying people who consigned with them. They've been around for ages under many different aliases and have been discussed here many times over the years. I believe one of their many former usernames was peppercia. Avoid like the plague.

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Some people think PCBComicsandSports is the reincarnated infamous ebay seller "Battlefield" https://forums.collectors.com/discus...omicsandsports

Apparently their brick and mortar was robbed in February: https://www.wjhg.com/2023/02/17/pair...x-figure-loss/

I'm not saying I believe in Karma, but....

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Yep, just another in their litany of usernames.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Some people think PCBComicsandSports is the reincarnated infamous ebay seller "Battlefield" https://forums.collectors.com/discus...omicsandsports

Apparently their brick and mortar was robbed in February: https://www.wjhg.com/2023/02/17/pair...x-figure-loss/

I'm not saying I believe in Karma, but....

Dothan, Alabama will never be the same if the brothers left there for Panama City, Florida.

[jsfriedm]

But just imagine that 1988 Donruss Dave Winfield that you're basically getting for free!

[Leon]

Maybe they moved to Ohio? It seems to be where a lot of fraud starts out...

NO, this seller shouldn't be on ebay any longer. But they are because they make ebay money.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Dothan, Alabama will never be the same if the brothers left there for Panama City, Florida.

[esd70433]

I also was skeptical about this seller. His photos are extremely misleading and on average are about 5 grade points below the described condition...however I have bought approx. 20 1952 Topps and 25 T206 cards from him and only one of the 45 cards came back from SGC as trimmed.

Again, extremely shady seller, but I just wanted to share my personal experience. If you can win a card described as NM-MT and expect to receive a 3 or 4 grade and still pay for around VG condition, you likely will come out ahead.

[Fuddjcal]

Originally Posted by cgjackson222

Some people think PCBComicsandSports is the reincarnated infamous ebay seller "Battlefield" https://forums.collectors.com/discus...omicsandsports

Apparently their brick and mortar was robbed in February: https://www.wjhg.com/2023/02/17/pair...x-figure-loss/

I'm not saying I believe in Karma, but....

I did not know. bought a few 56 topps cards from them about a year ago and sent them right back because they were short 1/2", Had I known the below info, I would never have bought from them.

That is so funny that the co owner is good ole god fearing holier than thou, steal all day, pray all night... Todd Mueller: Todd Mueller, a co-owner of PCB Coins and Cards. “Thank god it was at night

[commishbob]

Yikes, I've only dealt with the ebay authentication process once so it never occurred to me that 'stuffing' expensive cards in 'lots' was a way to skirt it. I guess I shouldn't be surprised that folks quickly found a way around it.

[luciobar1980]

Scumbags.

[pitburgfan]

I agree, most cards looking a little short when it comes to borders.

[Mbjerry]

I am glad I stumbled onto this post. Perfect timing! I literally had just put in a snipe on the 57 Drysdale. I have cancelled the snipe but can’t cancel my bid I actually placed on the 57 Slaughter. At least it’s only a bid of $11. I knew the cards looked too good. Thank you for posting.


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[Arazi4442]

A couple of their new auctions just popped up on my saved searches, thought it might be a good time to bump this thread for awareness.

Still using the +6 HOF cards to bypass authentication.

[Jenx34]

A post on Ebay in Vintage Baseball Cards popped up today. I've seen this seller before and had the same feeling that it felt like the old Battlefield. Guy on FB today said his package came from Campbellton, FL, which is just 25 minutes south of Dothan, AL. Not ironclad proof, but it fits nicely.

I'd definitely stay away.

[1880nonsports]

PCB and battlefield are the same people. It's amazing people still fall prey to them in whatever iteration......

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by 1880nonsports

PCB and battlefield are the same people. It's amazing people still fall prey to them in whatever iteration......

I will go all PWCC, Problemstien, Ect., buyers and say I have 100% bought from the boys from Dothan with zero problems. The cards arrived and were exactly as described and shipped quickly. I see zero problem with buying from them.

[alan1003]

Haven't had a trimming problem with them. But, recently I sent some Topps 1953 cards from pcbcomicsandsports to PSA for grading and three came back ungraded with "evidence of recoloration".

[danmckee]

This seller is NO GOOD.

Dan Mckee

[FromVAtoLA]

Saw some raw T206 Fred Snodgrass cards in surprisingly good condition so I added them to my watchlist. Was looking at them closer and thought it was weird that they were paired with a handful of random 70’s cards. Then I noticed who the seller was. Removed them from my watchlist. Thanks to all of those that posted in this thread!

[Lucas00]

How is this seller still on ebay? The amount of cards destroyed has to be in the tens of thousands. Every listing is nm or mint and heavily trimmed. Report report report, lets take some collected action and all report this seller. Get them off the site.

Not only destroying cards which is against ebay tos in terms of fraudulent listings but also against ebay tos circumventing authentication by selling as lots.

Of course this is all alleged and I'm also the pope.