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Old 04-30-2018, 12:02 PM
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I still don't understand what the sticker means and what I do once I get it ? Is a sticker card guaranteed to gain a point ? Does it sell for more ? Is this even legal ?
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Old 04-30-2018, 12:55 PM
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I wanna purple sticker, I need a purple sticker.
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How long until cards are listed on ebay with a description stating, "Undergraded? Resubmit? This example is clearly an under-stickered card. It got a purple, but it should've received at least a red sticker."
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So now some in the hobby want to further grade cards that someone already paid to have graded? People amaze me with the avenues they will pursue to make a buck. A grading of the grade?? Goodness, I am still somewhat skeptical about TPGing to begin with, now someone wants to add this layer??
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Si would say that's not just purple..
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I still don't understand what the sticker means and what I do once I get it ? Is a sticker card guaranteed to gain a point ? Does it sell for more ? Is this even legal ?
What would make you question the legality of placing a sticker on a graded card?
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What would make you question the legality of placing a sticker on a graded card?
Well, if PWCC patented the "High End" sticker designation, I am not sure someone else can put stickers on cards? Hell, I guess if PWCC did no such thing, we could ALL put stickers and smiley faces and anything else we want on cards to see if they will sell for more.
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I very much doubt a sticker saying High End is patentable. Or did I miss a sarcasm font.
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Yea I could maybe see a trademark for the phrase certified high end as it relates to cards. But I doubt they could patent the stickers. As for this new company I wish you luck but can't imagine many will be paying for this "service." I know I wont be.
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Thanks to those who have contributed to this thread hope I didn't start something here ? No offense to any veterans for asking green questions....Seems like a lot of passion im a happy new club54 member!! it's cool to have such a reservoir of knowledge at fingertips
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I haven't really decided on what I think about this.

With Coins, the Company is CAC, and they do provide a decent service. Coins have been graded for longer than cards, with all the same issues (shouldn't be a surprise right)
They've been graded for so long, that the "standards" have slipped for several years now, some of it is a need for "new" coins in an acceptable grade, some of it is a lack of coins that are all that great in middle grades. So a VG say 20 years ago would get a better grade today. (Not my opinion, I got that from an article by a very long time dealer. ) So a sticker from CAC actually in most cases does mean "if graded today it will probably grade higher"

I don't see quite the same dynamic in cards. Overall, cards are probably at a point where the standards have tightened up a bit. So I'm thinking that right now it isn't really necessary.
But.........someday it will be. Maybe sooner than later, there's close to 30 years of grading, and the standards have evolved as well as the way they're applied.
PSA got where they are by being "first" (Not actually, but first with some features and certainly first with good marketing)
So if a similar service to CAC is going to happen, and it will (Just did!) It's probably a good business move to start it now.

Now if only there was a sticker for "darn, they totally blew that one "......
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My main problem is the guy in charge of the grading applying the stickers to his own inventory, on cards that obviously don't deserve it. For that, I can't take this venture seriously. Maybe we need someone to grade the people that are grading the graders (tongue in cheek).
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I haven't really decided on what I think about this.

With Coins, the Company is CAC, and they do provide a decent service. Coins have been graded for longer than cards, with all the same issues (shouldn't be a surprise right)
They've been graded for so long, that the "standards" have slipped for several years now, some of it is a need for "new" coins in an acceptable grade, some of it is a lack of coins that are all that great in middle grades. So a VG say 20 years ago would get a better grade today. (Not my opinion, I got that from an article by a very long time dealer. ) So a sticker from CAC actually in most cases does mean "if graded today it will probably grade higher"

I don't see quite the same dynamic in cards. Overall, cards are probably at a point where the standards have tightened up a bit. So I'm thinking that right now it isn't really necessary.
But.........someday it will be. Maybe sooner than later, there's close to 30 years of grading, and the standards have evolved as well as the way they're applied.
PSA got where they are by being "first" (Not actually, but first with some features and certainly first with good marketing)
So if a similar service to CAC is going to happen, and it will (Just did!) It's probably a good business move to start it now.

The big thing in CAC's favor is that it was started by John Albanese, who is a long-time and well respected member of the numismatic community. He has the "credentials"; coin collectors know who he is, and they respect his opinion.

In the case of "Purple Label LLC", who is Greg Campbell? I've been a member of the baseball card community since the 1970s, going to shows, subscribed to Sports Collectors' Digest, The Trader Speaks, Baseball Hobby News, Baseball Cards Magazine, Beckett....., I've been a member of both the CU and Network54 message boards for several years, have bought from/placed bids with most of the major auction houses/dealers, and I have never heard of Greg Campbell anywhere until this thread.

It seems to me, to start something like CAC in the sports card community, and be successful, you should have immediate name recognition; someone like Brent Huigens, Steve Hart, Kit Young, Levi Bleam, Bill Goodwin, Dave Kohler; i.e., someone who has been around for years/decades, and who is known and respected in the community. To me, this Greg Campbell doesn't fit the bill.

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