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Old 08-21-2015, 08:54 PM
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personally I'd like to know exactly how the grading of that wagner went down. i'd surmise all the major players were in a room together with some graders(I mean friends) all discussing the merits of the card and if there were a way to detect trim/alteration...prior to slabbing it and creating a hobby changing money making machine all founded on a lie!
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Old 08-21-2015, 08:58 PM
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personally I'd like to know exactly how the grading of that wagner went down. i'd surmise all the major players were in a room together with some graders(I mean friends) all discussing the merits of the card and if there were a way to detect trim/alteration...prior to slabbing it and creating a hobby changing money making machine all founded on a lie!
I believe I have read that David Hall and Bill Hughes were there, and there may have been others. But it has been written about.
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I believe I have read that David Hall and Bill Hughes were there, and there may have been others. But it has been written about.
I posted back in 2012 about this, as David Hall talked about this at the PSA lunch at the National that year. Here are my posts from that time:

"At the PSA lunch right now - David Hall is 100 percent standing by the PSA 8 grade, and says the only debate was whether to grade it a 7 or 8. He says they will stand by their product but they don't believe the evidence to date."

"Not sure if anything was recorded, but Hall was adamant that he examined te Wagner with a magnifying glass and stood by it, but if anything was proven otherwise and PSA had to compensate a buyer for any reason, that was part of their guarantee."

"Hall said Hughes told him that the quotes in the book and the newspaper articles were outright lies, and Hughes never said he knew the card was trimmed."
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But what's the Cincinnati Wagner worth today?
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